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Ozone (O3)
is a form of Oxygen (O2)
and is a powerful oxidizing agent that can control microorganisms, destroy
organic contamination, byproduct build ups, dead algae and organic debris.
It is not a complete sanitizer in the truest sense, because it does not remain
in the water for long periods of time. In a swimming pool, there must be a
backup sanitizer such as, chlorine or bromine, usually at about 1/2 the normal
level. Because the ozonator does most of the oxidizing, far less
chlorine or bromine will be required to maintain any given level. Ozonators, also known as Ozone
Generators, can greatly reduce the quantity of the backup sanitizer
that would, otherwise, be required. This is especially important in larger pools, heavy bather
usage situations and commercial pools. The devices that generate Ozone fall
into two categories: UV or Corona discharge. Commercial pools,
larger residential pools or heavy bather load pools should utilize a
corona-discharge unit, as it is capable of producing larger amounts of ozone. With ozonation, the
water chemistry should be maintained in the typical manner.
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► Ozone, Chlorine &
ORP?
I have a system with an ozone
generator and a controller for pH and ORP on my swimming pool. I keep my pH at
7.5 and my ORP at 700. The one thing I have always been confused about is how
long to run my filter pump. And what should the Chlorine level be? I've
been told I can use almost no chlorine, if I run my system 24 hours a day.
Presently I am maintaining a chlorine level of about 0.4 - 0.6 ppm and run my
filter for 10 - 12 hours a day, usually for 12 hours during summer and when the
pool is heated. I'd like to minimize chlorine usage. As I see it,
it's a trade off between chemical usage, electricity for the pump and how much
chlorine in the water I'm willing to deal with. Is my practice an
acceptable one, or would you suggest otherwise? Thank you.
Ken C., 4/23/2005
You're right.
It is a trade off. I suggest that you continue as you are doi ng. It
is not a good idea to give up on the chlorine, as its presence acts as
confirmation that proper sanitation exists. With the
ozone generator, it will
take little chlorine to maintain this lower than normal level. The big
negative, about chlorine, is formation of odorous and irritating chloramines.
In your pool, this is not a problem because the ozone destroys the chloramines.
Chlorine acts as a persistent sanitizer and helps backup the ozone. You
seem to have things well in hand. All I can suggest is that you operate
the filter and ozonator for two sessions per day, by dividing the current
running times in half. That way the pool will be without ozone being
produced for fewer hours at a time.
For more information about Ozone and Ozone Generators go to:
www.waterquality.net I hope that I have been helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 4/24/2005
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Ozone: how does it work?
How do pool
Ozonators work? Will other chemicals and chlorine still be required?
Thanks for the help. Sincerely.
Jason H., Reading,
PA, 7/24/2003
There are two
common methods of generating ozone in a pool. Most units pass air over
a UV light source, that converts oxygen into ozone. Others units use
corona discharge (electric sparking similar to lightning) to convert oxygen into
ozone. The corona discharge units can produce higher quantities of ozone.
In a swimming pool, the ozone can destroy organic matter, including algae and
bacteria. The
Ozone Generator is usually operated in conjunction with the timer
and the filter. Once the Ozonator is shut off, all production of ozone
ceases and the ozone in the water quickly leaves - there is no residual
effect. At this point, the pool is subject to microbial growth, especially
on the walls and in the corners. Because of this limitation of ozone,
there must be a backup sanitizer, most often chlorine or bromine.
However, the Ozonator will reduce the amount of chlorine or bromine required, to
a fraction of what it would be, otherwise. So far as the overall water chemistry is
concerned, it must be maintained in consideration of water clarity and quality,
bather comfort and corrosiveness. I hope that I
have been of assistance.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 7/24/2003
► High Chlorine
Levels?
Alan-we
have a new indoor pool and are having trouble keeping the chlorine level
down. The pool is used primarily by one swimmer, and is covered around 23
hours per day. We’ve been using a dichlor shock treatment once a week per
instructions. I’ve shut our chlorinator (which uses 3” tablets) off entirely.
With the chlorinator off for more than one week now, and with a shock per
above one day ago, our readings are total chlorine (between 3 and 10), free
chlorine (10+), with pH, total alkalinity, and stabilizer at normal levels.
When the cover comes off, there is a definite chlorine odor. The pool
has an ozone generator, and the mineral-type skimmer inserts in each of two
skimmers. I suspect that with no sunshine burn off, and limited bather
use, there is limited consumption of chlorine. Is the solution to not shock
and dribble in very little chlorine, or shock using less shock product?
We’re literally itching for an answer! Thanks!
Stephen R., Alaska, 1/31/2004
I can see from your email address why the pool is indoors. I do have an
an  swer for you, but it may not, entirely, be the one you expect. Stop adding
all chlorine: either in the form of tablets or shock! Your pool is
equipped with an
ozonator,
mineral sanitizer, is located indoors, is covered
most of the time and not subject to high bather loads. This means that the
ozonator and the mineral sanitizer should be more than capable of meeting all
of your pool's sanitizer requirements. The chlorine levels are building up
because there is nothing for them to react with - just as you might have
suspected.
The recommendations for chlorination and shocking were probably made based on
the pool NOT being equipped with an ozonator and mineral
sanitizer.
The only time you will ever need to shock the pool is at the first sign of a
loss of water quality or after periods of heavy bather usage. Under these
circumstances use a full strength chlorine or non-chlorine shock. The
equipment that you have is what I frequently recommend to pool owners that are
sensitive to either chlorine or bromine. I hope that this will solve the
problem.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 2/1/2004
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Ozone Levels?
I received the
ozone tester. What should the optimum reading be? I see there are 4 levels -
0.01ppm, 0.025, 0.05 and 0.10. Thanks.
Peter B.,
5/6/2005
Thank you for
ordering the Ozone Test kit.
I don't believe that there is a standard for ozone. Ozone is short lived, with about 1/2 lasting for only
20 minutes. It reacts almost instantly with organic matter, has limited
solubility in water and gasses off. All this conspires to make
ozone
testing
challenging. It is best done right at the return jet. The presence
of measurable amounts of ozone, in the return flow, confirms that the
ozone generator
is working. All that should be present, are the low levels shown on the
test kit. Higher levels, especially in indoor situation could prove
irritating. Equally important are the facts that the ozonator size
(output) should be adequate for the spa water volume, that it be operated for
sufficient periods of time and that a backup sanitizer, such as chlorine,
bromine or a
mineral sanitizer be used. Now that you have confirmed that
ozonation is occurring, you need to maintain the backup sanitizer at about 1/2
of the normal concentration. Good luck with the spa and thanks for ordering the
test kit.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 6/6/2005
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Why Aren't Ozonators More Popular?
Ozonators sound like
a good idea. So why are they not very popular? Is it good for a lazy
pool owner?
John W.,
6/24/2005
They may not
be as popular as chlorine, but their popularity is increasing in all types of
residential and commercial pools. The use of
ozone generators has been widespread in
spas for many years. Ozonators are
not complete stand alone pool sanitizers.
A backup system, usually chlorine or bromine must be used. A salt chlorine
generator can be used in conjunction with an ozonator
and will provide additional benefits.
Mineral sanitizers and ionizers can also be used in conjunction with ozone and
chlorine, to provide backup sanitizing and reduce the chlorine usage. In addition, all of the important water chemistry parameters must be maintained,
as in a chlorine-maintained pool. Yes, it is convenient. Yes,
it will reduce the overall requirements for sanitizer and will simplify chemical
balancing. Yes, it is good for "lazy" pool owners. There are other
choices that might be worthy of your consideration. Salt chlorine generators can completely eliminate the need
for any chlorine and there is no need for a backup. Still the water
chemistry must be maintained. But isn't that what pool service companies
are for? I hope that I have been of assistance.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 6/24/2005
► Chlorine And Ozone?
I purchased a pool with an
ozone generator this last summer and had the pool company come and start it up for me.
They mentioned that if I had a pool service come out to work on my pool they
would tell me something is wrong with my pool as there are air bubbles in my
filter pump that are being pushed out to my pool - the ozonator manufacturer
states this is absolutely normal. He was telling me that these bubbles will
ruin my filters and I will find myself replacing them much sooner than if I
didn't have an ozonator. He at one point bluntly made the statement that they
are fancy pieces of equipment that don't actually work - that bugged me.
He also pointed out that the pressure in the filter casing was below 10lbs. My
pool company told me is should be below 10 at all times, if it gets above ten
that I need to clean the filters. This pool service guy told me that it should
be between 15 and 20 lbs at all times to keep the filters from expanding and
contracting which, according to him (the pool guy), will ruin my filters. I
have been toying with the idea of putting in a switch that will shut off the air
flow from the ozonator to see what kind of performance differences I get by
running straight chlorine vs. chlorine with an ozonator. Your comments? Thanks.
Chris K., TX, 4/1/2005
An
ozone generator
should be installed before the pump, so that the proper venturi effect will be
created.
Doing this sends ozone through the filter and results in a cleaner filter with
less debris and oily accumulations. That's why you see bubbles and why
there will be longer filter runs. The
pressure is staying lower, in part, because of the action of the ozone. Unless your
filter manufacturer give you information to the contrary, I don't see a problem.
You don't have to install a switch to shut off the air flow to see what will
happen. I can tell you! You will positively use more chlorine and
that should make the "pool guy" happy. Ozonators and chlorine work well together. A case of they said vs. he
said. Simple as that. I hope that I have shed some light on the
subject.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 4/1/2005
► Minimizing
Chemicals?
After reading more of your
advise to others, I am wondering if we could get away with using NO chlorine by
using an ozonator along with a mineral pac or an ionizer. We are getting a
small (3,600 gals.) fiberglass pool which will be covered with a 4" spa cover,
and will also be under a patio cover, used by 2 adults. We plan to keep the
pool at 87-90 degrees. What would you recommend? Would our filter (sand) have
to run longer if we do not use chlorine or a salt chlorinator? What other
additives/tests would we need to use, and would we have to be extra careful to
add fresh water, because of the pool being covered all the time? Is it smarter
to just go with a salt chlorinator? Our pool installer is discouraging us from
use the salt chlorinator, and if indeed we can get by with no chlorine, that
would be ideal. However, we want to keep things simple as well as clean,
and safe. I'm obviously in the dark about pool chemistry and appreciate
any insight that you can offer. Thanks.
Patty, Tucson, AZ, 10/20/2004
What you are
proposing will work. Just make sure that the ozonator is properly sized for
your pool. The combination of an
ozone generator and a
mineral saniti zer will work well, even
at higher temperatures, as this combination is popular in spas. For the sake of
bather comfort and water quality, the overall pool water chemistry must be
maintained in the typical manner. This combination should not require
filtration practices that are different from typical pools of the same size and
configuration.
By add
The Circulator,
you will dramatically improve circulation and eliminate dead zones. This
makes it possible to send ozone to the four corners of the pool, achieving
optimum performance. Another means
of minimizing chemical usage is with
ultraviolet sanitizing. Adding a UV
sanitizer will allow you to use as much as 85% less chlorine or bromine, killing
virtually all of the microorganisms, as the water flows through the unit.
I would still advise the use of a low level of chlorine, as it confirm that
proper conditions exist. All it should take is a 0.5-1.5 PPM level.
There is be little sensation of chlorine and the amount used, to maintain this
level, will be much less. You may not eliminate chlorine, but you will
come close. I hope that
this information will prove to be helpful. Please tell your friends and dealers
about the website.
Sincerely. Alan
Schuster, 10/20/2004
► Ozone And Bromine In
A Pool?
Hi, I have a 32,000 gallon pool and I have an
OZONATOR and I use Bromine. I have two questions. First the water seems to have
a sweet smell, is this due to the ozone? I have never noticed it in past
years. If it is from the ozone does it mean the ozone level is too high?
My second question is everyone says an ozonator can save on sanitizer. How do I
know what level of Bromine to maintain and what are the signs the Bromine level
is too low? Thank You.
D. D., 6/14/2004
A poet once described ozone as
smelling like ocean waves crashing on the rocks. It is possible that you
are detecting some ozone, at times when it might be high. Without an
ozone generator you would need to maintain 3-5 PPM of bromine. With the ozonator,
you should be able to manage with 1-3 PPM and it will require less bromine to
maintain. Even if you maintained the same 3-5 PPM level, it would still
take less bromine, because of the ozonator.
Bromine levels can be measured
by a
simple test.
Any sign of a loss of water quality can signal inadequate ozonation or bromine
levels. Cloudy water or algae are the most obvious signs of the need to
improve sanitizing. I hope that I have been helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
6/14/2004
► Bromine Usage
and Ozone?
I have a 25K gallon in ground pool that uses
bromine for sanitation. We have had the pool for 9 years and it is 15 years
old currently. It has been relatively easy to maintain. My question is
that with bromine, we have to shock the pool almost every other day in the peak
of summer when it is used a lot and the water temp is up around 80. I am
assuming that this is because bromine is un-stabilized and degrades quickly from
the Sun. So the real question is what type of auto generating systems can
we add to this pool to ease the high volume of shocking? Looking at
Ozonators, Salt Generators, etc, but find very little info when it comes to
supporting a bromine system. Thanks for your help.
Scott R., 4/2/2008
This is a good question
and you are wise to ask it. Even if you stop using bromine, bromide ions will
remain. Adding chlorine will convert the bromides to bromine and the process
keeps recycling. If you add a salt chlorine generator, it will have to be set
at a higher than normal setting and this will shorten the life of the cell and
create more of a pH rise. Many salt chlorine generator manufacturers do not
recommend having bromides present. An
ozone generator
is not a stand alone sanitizing system. It needs back up. It provides
oxidation without the addition of chemicals that lead to chemistry changes or
buildup. If you use an ozone generator, it will carry the burden of the
oxidations or wastes and organic byproducts. That leaves the bromine for
sanitizing and backup. Under these circumstances, you will need far less
bromine and should be able to set the goal at a lower 1-2 PPM level. Because
bromides are present, you can use the less expensive chlorine to maintain the
low bromine level, as it will be converted. Adding a
Frog mineral sanitizer,
which can be used with bromine and ozone, will provide persistent backup and
help minimize bromine/chlorine use. I hope that this information will prove to
be helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 4/3/2008
► Ozone And Chlorine
In A Pool?
My pool is currently being
maintained, by myself, with chlorine tablets in a feeder. I have gotten
good results so far, but the dealer recently told me that I will have to replace
half of the pool water, the next few months, because the stabilizer level is
getting too high. Is that necessary? If I were to add an ozonator to
the pool, would that be helpful? Thanks for the input.
Jeff D., Sunrise, FL, 1/4/2005
It is good
practice to replace some of the pool water, when the cyanuric acid level rises
above 150 PPM, as high levels will decrease the efficiency of the chlorine.
In short, you'll be forced to maintain a higher, than normal, level of
free
chlorine.
Adding an
ozonator would be very helpful!
The ozonator would provide much of the
needed oxidizing function that is necessary to destroy wastes, dead algae and
debris. This means that you'll need to add less chlorine to maintain a
satisfactory free chlorine level.
Adding less chlorine will not only save money, but it will slow up the increases
in cyanuric acid levels that are due to the addition of the chlorine. In
addition, I would expect that you'll have fewer algae problems, because it is
less likely that the free chlorine levels will deplete quickly. I hope
that the information will be of help.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 1/4/2005
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Ozone
And UV SanitizingTogether?
Is there any
systems in which you can use an ozonator and UV? So no need for Chlorine or
Bromine. Also what are your feelings on Steel vs. Concrete pools under the
vinyl? Thanks.
John S.,
4/27/2008
The easy one first. I would choose concrete:
it stronger, doesn't rust and the walls will not bow or flex.
You can add
UV
Sanitizing and an
Ozone Generator,
but as two separate units. It will virtually assure you that the return
flow will be devoid of living algae and bacteria. However, the pool walls
and water can still support algae and bacteria. Keeping a low level of
chlorine, about 1 PPM, will prevent growth in the pool and on the walls.
The ozonator will carry the burden of oxidizing wastes and very little chlorine
will actually be required. The odorous form of chlorine will be destroyed,
as the water returns to the pool. There should be little or no sensation
of chlorine. The fact that you will be able to maintain this low level of
free chlorine, with only minimal amounts of chemicals, will act as conformation
that proper conditions exist and that everything is functioning properly.
For more about UV sanitizing go to:
www.deltauv.com For more about
ozone generators go to:
www.waterquality.net If you add
the relatively inexpensive
Circulators,
to your returns, that will eliminate any dead zones that could promote algal and
bacterial growth. I hope that you will find this information helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
4/27/2008
► Ozone And A Salt
Chlorinator?
I live in Venezuela and we
live in the mountains where is cool and we have a pool of about 41,000 gallons
that is currently heated to about 90 degrees and this is forcing us to increase
our chemical usage. The kids eyes are being affected. I would like to move
towards using less chemicals and would like to get a ozone generator and/or
combination of a salt chlorinator. Could you recommend something?
Luis R., Venezuela,
2/13/2007
The combination of a
salt
chlorine generator
and an
ozone generator should be a great improvement. While a combination unit does
exist, I would not recommend it. Your pool is quite large and the temperature
will be on the high end. You should have full sized or even oversized
units. For a salt chlorine generator that will do the job properly, I
suggest
AutoPilot.
The ozonator will provide backup oxidation and help minimize the amount of
chlorine required. This will create more pleasant conditions and help the
extend the life of the salt cell. I hope that this information proves
helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 2/13/2007
► Hydrogen Peroxide As
A Backup?
I read some of the information
on your website regarding using ozone in a pool with a sanitizer like chlorine,
bromine, ionizers, or mineral sanitizers, but I was wondering couldn't you also
use hydrogen peroxide as a residual sanitizer? Any additional information
you could provide on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Vince, 6/11/2004
Hydrogen peroxide
is not used as a pool water sanitizer. It is used only as an oxidizer,
primarily with biguanide maintained pools. Biguanide acts as a sanitizer
and hydrogen peroxide acts as an oxidizer and not as a sanitizer. With an
ozonator, you don't need an additional oxidizer, as ozone amply fills that need.
What you do need is a permanent backup sanitizer and, in this role, chlorine,
bromine,
mineral sanitizers or ionizers can be used. This
way, if ozone is not being produced, for a short period of time, there will
still be some sanitizer present. I hope that this information proves
helpful.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 6/11/2004
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Pool Water Sanitizing
Duo?
I will be installing an
ozonator and a mineral sanitizer in my heated inground pool. My wife is
sensitive to chlorine and we want to completely avoid all such use. Do you
think that this combination will work? Is there equipment that I can
install that will automatically adjust the water? I am interested in
reducing the maintenance and time requirements, as much as possible. Thank
you. Terrific website!!!
Joel, 3/18/2006
The
combination of an
ozonator and
mineral sanitizer should satisfy most
of the sanitizing
requirements of your pool. You should still keep a low level of
chlorine and, because of the ozonator, much less chlorine will be required. There are pool automation controllers that can be used to
operate just about everything that is electrical and then some:
filtration, temperature, water level, water chemistry, pool cleaning and
more. They can definitely save time. I hope that I have been
helpful. Enjoy the pool.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 3/18/2006

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