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"Spa Filter Problems"
Inadequate filtration can lead to water clarity problems.
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Proper filtration is one of the keys to better water quality and clarity.
While most spa utilize a cartridge filter for convenience, it is not always the
best or most efficient way to filter spa water. High efficiency
filters can remove micron size particulates, that might otherwise pass right
through a standard filter cartridge. The more efficient filtering of various
particles reduces the need for chemicals or makes them more effective.
This, is turn, makes cloudy spa or hot tub water less likely.
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High Efficiency Pre-Filtering?
I am
debating switching my regular filter to a disposable micro filter. It was
independently tested and is 94 % efficient at removing particles at 1 micron.
With this filter, you are supposed to get rid of using defoamers, decalcifiers,
basically any liquids normally added to the tub. The filters will last 2-4
months and are about $30. Less expensive than using all the other materials.
According to the company, it will remove all particles that can cause damage to
the hot tub. Of course, you still need to have sanitizer in the tub. Just
wondering if you had an info or thoughts on these filters. The spa
manufacturer, in my city, sells all their tubs with these filters and has for
over 3 years. Thanks in advance of your thought. Cheers.
Derek,
Canada, 3/14/2009
Depending upon
the quality of your source water, a
high efficiency filter can make a significant difference. There is a
simple
way to do this, without using disposable cartridges or replacing your existing
filter. The
PURESTART 1 Micron Pre-Filter
will remove particles down to 1-micron, many types of bacteria and viruses and
more. It you use a small pool cover pump and a garden hose, you can
recirculate the water and remove particles of 1-micron or larger. If you
use it, when the spa is refilled, think of all of the stuff you'll be keeping
out of the spa.
Better filtration should improve
water quality and reduce the need for some or most of the accessory chemicals.
You will still have to maintain a proper sanitizer level and keep the pH, TA and
calcium hardness within acceptable ranges. There is no doubt that
the PURESTART 1 MICRON Pre-Filter is better than the standard spa cartridges,
used alone. I hope
that I have been helpful.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 3/14/2009
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Floating White
Particles?
We recently purchased a home
which has an above ground spa. Unfortunately we were not left any reference
materials related to the spa. It has been cleaned, but we are still seeing
small black and viscous white particles floating throughout the water, no one
has used the spa since we moved in. I assumed that the filter would take care
of this, but the particles are still there. Is there something that we can do
about this as we REALLY want to use our spa. Thank you for any advice
that you can offer.
Angela G., 5/8/2007
What you are describing is the
flaking off of scale and copper corrosion deposits from the heater coil.
The white particles are calcium carbonate and the dark ones are probably
oxidized copper. I suggest that you add a dose of a calcium scale
treatment and a metal treatment. These products should help end the
problem within a few days. Have the water tested for copper and calcium
hardness, as this will provide insight into the problem. If the problems
continue, you may want to do the following. Allow the chlorine level to
zero out. Lower the pH to about 6.0 and keep recirculating the water.
When there seems to be no more white particles, drain and clean the spa.
Refill, add a dose of a calcium scale treatment and resume normal operation.
Depending upon the type of filter that you have, calcium minerals can be
passing right through the filter. I hope that this information proves helpful.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 5/9/2007
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Using Well Water?
I would like to fill a 400 gallon spa with
well water. The spa will be sanitized with an ozonator and a bromine
floater. I plan on adding some metal treatment before the chemicals.
Anything that I should do?
Bill M., 2/4/2006
Have the water tested, to know
what you're dealing with. Iron, copper or manganese are commonly found in
well water and can cause staining and discoloration. The best treatment is
the physical removal of the metals. While there are chemicals for this
purpose, many contain phosphates and can degrade, over time, allowing the
staining and discoloration to return. You could use
The METALTRAP Pre-Filter, as the water
is added to the spa. It attaches to a garden hose will help to physically remove the metals that
most frequently lead to staining and discoloration.
It is far better than just adding chemicals. After the spa is
filled, you should continue to use it, when adding new
water. The will help
maintain better water quality and reduce chemical consumption, for metal and
stain treatment. I hope that
this information proves helpful.
Sincerely. Alan
Schuster, 2/4//2006
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Cleaning A Spa Filter Cartridge?
What's the best way to clean a spa filter cartridge.
And how often?
Jessica, Tampa, FL,
12/6/2004
There are Spa Filter Cleaning Products
available: these products are usually acidic, detergent solutions. Hose the
cartridge off to remove hair and other debris. The cartridge should be immersed in a
plastic container (5-gallon pails are
perfect) containing water and some of the cartridge
cleaner. Follow directions, as to duration, etc. If the container isn't deep
enough, turn the cartridge over to immerse the other end. Hose off to remove all
traces of the cleaner when finished.
How often the cartridge should be cleaned will
depend upon the water chemistry and the amount of bather wastes.
Any time that the return flow seems weak is a good time to clean the cartridge.
Otherwise, every month or so and whenever the water is replaced. Using
The Blaster Automatic Filter Cartridge Cleaner
will do it without all the work. It simply attaches to a garden hose and
does the rest. Enjoy the spa. I hope that I was
helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
12/6/2004
► Blue/Purple Deposits In Filter
Cartridge?
Wondering if you could help please.
On changing the filter on my spa, I found it was covered in a blue/purple
deposit, so much so it was slowing water flow and causing the pipes to "bang
and rattle" when going through the propane heater. The banging stops
with the filter is removed. I balance the spa with chlorine tabs and
pH it with Bicarb Soda, Nothing else is used. Help??? Thank
you.
Nick W., 3/13/2009
Chlorine tablets are not recommended for use in a spa, especially
not if they are placed in the skimmer basket. Trichlor is far too
soluble, at the temperature of a spa. If you place it in the skimmer
basket, its acidic nature will lead to copper corrosion. If used in a
floater, it will tend to lower the pH and lead to corrosion.
The blue-purple deposits in the filter seem to confirm that copper
corrosion has occurred. I suggest draining and cleaning the spa and
restarting using another means of sanitation. Otherwise, your heater
might end up needing to be replaced. There are different ways to
sanitize a spa. I suggest that you consider the use of
ozone
and a
Spa Frog mineral
sanitizer, along with a low
level of bromine. The addition of an ozone generator and mineral
sanitizer is something that will make maintenance easier and produce
higher quality water. I hope that I have been helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 3/13/2009
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Spa Sediment?
Hi, I have a Spa that over the
last month daily has a sediment on the one step in the morning that resembles
soft brown sand. I can vacuum it up and within 4 or 5 hours will start to
reappear. Do you have any idea what this might be. Thanks.
Walt, 7/16/2007
The sediment is
probably waste materials, minerals or dead algae, mold, bacteria, etc. In
any event is seems likely that ma y be too small to be removed by your filter,
even if lifted off the bottom. Start by checking your filter. How
old is the cartridge? Adding a dose of a blue clarifier could help coagulate the
sediment and make it easier to filter out. Depending upon how the spa is
being sanitized, it may simply be a matter of adding shock more often.
There is a simple
way to remove ultra fine particles for an existed filled spa or from new water
being added, without using disposable cartridges or replacing your existing
filter. The
PURESTART 1 Micron Pre-Filter
will remove particles down to 1-micron, many types of bacteria and viruses and
more. It you use a small pool cover pump and a garden hose, you can
recirculate the water, removing particles of 1-micron or larger. If you
use it, when the spa is refilled, think of all of the sediment that you'll be
keeping out of the spa. I
hope that these suggestions prove helpful.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 7/16/2007
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Spa Filter/Sanitizer Choice?
Hi. Which is a better spa filter-an
ozonator or a MicroPure product?
Roger H., West Sacramento, California,
3/15/2008
An
ozonator is not a filter, but helps produce better water quality and fewer chemicals. Even
better would be an ozone generator and mineral sanitizer for sanitation and
oxidation of wastes. The addition of an
UltraPure ozone generator is
something that you would be wise to consider, as it will make maintenance
easier and produce higher quality water and will reduce the chemical
consumption. You might add a
FROG mineral sanitizer,
as well, since it will provide additional, persistent sanitizing. The
combination of the two work well together. All you should need is a lower
level of chlorine or bromine, as it will act as confirmation that proper
conditions are being maintained. I hope that this information proves to be
helpful.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 3/15/2008
Thanks for the great information! Are the
Spa Frog mineral sanitizer and the other leading brand about the same in
effectiveness?
The
Spa Frog Mineral
Sanitizers can be used, with
chlorine or bromine and is registered by the E.P.A. as both a spa
disinfectant and as a spa sanitizer. The other leading product
cannot be used with bromine and is E.P.A. registered, only, as a spa
sanitizer. I hope that this clears things up.
Sincerely. Alan
Schuster, 3/18/2008
Since installing the spa
frog inline system in our hot tub we have noticed this thick grey almost mud
like (grey) residue gathering on the water line in certain areas and at the
filter of our hot tub when both pumps are on high. Could this mean
that the mineral level is set to high? It is set at 6 as instructed but the
instructions do not tell you to adjust it at all...why are the other
settings an option then? All our other water chemistry is perfect.
Do we need to drain our spa and start again. Thank you.
Nova S., 7/26/2009
It is hard to be specific. It could be due to minerals present in the
source water, organic bather wastes. body oils or cosmetic residues.
You might consider using a
PURESTART 1 MICRON pre-filter
to recirculate the water. It will remove mineral particles, as small a
1 micron. Simply attach to a garden hose and small pump. As it
recirculates the water, it removes ultra small particles, including
minerals, organic matter, cosmetic residues and even some bacteria and
viruses. The addition of an
UltraPure ozone generator is
something that you would be wise to consider, as it will make
maintenance easier and produce higher quality water. It will reduce the
chemical consumption. You should continue with the Spa
Frog mineral sanitizer, as well,
since it will provide additional, persistent sanitizing. The
combination of the two work well together. All you should need is a
lower level of chlorine or bromine, as it will act as confirmation that
proper conditions are being maintained. Spas are usually drained about
every three months, more or less depending on usage and water quality.
I hope that this information will prove helpful.
Sincerely. Alan
Schuster, 7/27/2009
► Where Does the
Chlorine Go?
Good day, Alan, We are
new to the world of spas here in Florida. We use chlorine as our sanitizing
agent. I don't understand why when you enter a spa and the chlorine and pH
levels are where should be, and 30 min. later when you get out, the levels are
much lower. Is this normal? As I said, we are new in this arena. I didn't
realize that you had to add chemicals after, or before, each use. Guess we can
learn something new every day.
Joyce & Jim ,
Florida, 9/15/2003
The typical pool in your
neighborhood has about 60 times more water than your spa. Add to this the
fact that the spa is at a much higher temperature and this will produce more
bather wastes. This means that the typical spa gets more demands put on
its sanitizing system than the typical; pool. Sanitizer levels can be
depleted very quickly and it just makes sense to test the water and add more
chlorine before and after each use.
However, if
the spa is equipped with an
ozonator or
UV sanitizing unit, less chlorine will
be used. Ozone and UV
units have controllable effects on the sanitation, while chlorine effectiveness
rises and falls with its concentration. These alternative means of sanitizing
spas are more flexible and provide a higher degree of effectiveness through use
of a backup system. Much of the chlorine or Ozone is used to destroy
wastes that cannot be removed by standard spa filters.
Refer to the archives on a variety of spa and hot tub
sanitizer topics. I hope that I cleared up the mystery.
Sincerely. Alan
Schuster, 9/15/2003
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