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Shocking
a spa or hot tub refers to the application of large quantities of
chlorine, non-chlorine shock or hydrogen peroxide. Typically 5-10 times
the normal dose is used, based upon actual conditions and needs. The
purpose of this large dose is to break down the combined chlorine, organic waste
and contamination and re-establish a positive level of sanitizer. Shock
treatments must be repeated, until such time as a stable sanitizer reading can
be achieved, for at least a few hours. Products such as sodium dichlor and
non-chlorine shock are used for this purpose, with spas utilizing chlorine,
bromine, ozone generators, ultraviolet sanitizers, mineral sanitizers or ionizers.
These products cannot be used in a biguanide-maintained spa: only
concentrated hydrogen peroxide can be used as the shock. A spa should be
shocked at the first signs of algae or slime, after periods of heavy bather
usage and at the onset of a loss of water clarity or quality. Another
common practice is to shock treat the spa water every week, typically, after a period of high
bather usage. This will help to re-establish the sanitizer level, help prevent the growth
of resistant microorganisms and help maintain sparkling, crystal clear spa water.
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Chlorine Shock
And Bromine?
If
I am using Bromine, should I use a non-chlorine shock treatment and would
anything negative happen if I used a chlorine shock? This past summer, I
only used non-chlorine shock and had beautiful water. Last week, the pool
dealership gave me a fast-shock that has chlorine in it. Is it safe to use
with Bromine or not? Thanks.
Christine,
5/13/2007
Using the
chlorine shock should not be a problem.
When you add a non-chlorine shock
to bromine maintained water it destroys contamination or converts into
bromine. Guess what? The same thing will happen, if you use
chlorine. It all ends up as bromine. Isn't chemistry great!
I assume that the product is sodium dichlor and it should provide equally good
results. There would not be a problem switching back at any time.
Enjoy the spa.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 5/13/2007
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Something Other Than MPS?
I think I'm allergic to non-chlorine shock and my
wife doesn't want to use chlorine in our indoor spa because of the odor. Can I
use a Bromine system and shock with something other than mps? Or what else
would you suggest? Thanks.
Hal F., 2/3/2009
If you are maintaining your
spa on bromine, excess mps will convert to bromine. You can shock with
chlorine. There should be little persistent chlorine odor, as it will be
converted into bromine. I am not sure if your are allergic or not.
The problem may be rooted in poor sanitation and not have anything to do with
bromine or mps. I certainly agree that avoiding chlorine would be best, in
terms of the odor. What I suggest is that you add an
ozonator.
This will allow you to avoiding using shock, under normal conditions.
In addition to the ozonator, you should maintain a 1-3 PPM level of bromine and
use a
mineral sanitizer,
to help maintain this lower level of bromine. Either way you should get
better water quality with less odor and fewer chemicals being added.
I hope that I have been helpful. Good luck and enjoy the spa.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
2/3/2009
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How Often To Shock?
My spa is maintained with granular dichlor. Do I still have to shock
the water?
Henry D., Statesboro, GA,
12/3/2003
Shocking
helps to destroy organic byproducts and wastes and helps prevent the development
of resistant microorganisms. Shock treating the spa water, once a week or at the first signs of a loss of
water quality, is a reasonable minimum.
You could use the same dichlor product to
shock: just add a double or triple dose. I would prefer to use a non-chlorine
shock. This product will help destroy the odorous chloramines and get you back into
the spa even sooner. If your spa is equipped with an
ozonator, the need to
shock treat a spa can be reduced, especially if the ozonator is run off a
separate low-speed pump. I hope that I have been helpful.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 12/3/2003
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To Shock Or Not To
Shock?
Thanks for
your web site, I find it very helpful. I have a spa that is 300 gallons. I run
6 days a week and get in the hot tub after my run. This obviously takes its
toll on the water chemistry. Do you have any suggestions as to how often I
should shock and how often I should change the water? Any thing else you think
I should consider?
Hughes J.,
6/11/2004
If you don't have an
ozone generator, get one! All that activity is going to add a lot of wastes to
the water. Ozone can rid the water of the wastes and byproducts, without
greatly adding to the dissolved chemical load. Make sure that the ozonator
is run for extended periods of time after each use. Doing this could help
reduce the need frequent shock treatment. However, a weekly shock
treatment is still useful to rid the water of wastes and help prevent the
development of sanitizer-resistant microorganisms. How often to change the
water can be subjective. The only scientific way would be to measure the
TDS. If it rises 1500 PPM above the starting point, without a doubt the
water should be changed. Every 3 months is a common guideline, but heavy
use could mean more frequent changes. A lot depends upon the sanitizer
being used. Some methods add a lot to the TDS. Ozonation does not.
The important thing to do is maintain the water chemistry and clarity and it is
the best indication of water quality. I hope that I have been helpful.
Sincerely. Alan
Schuster, 6/11/2004
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Shocking Necessary?
Why do I need
to shock my spa when it has an ozonator and I add chlorine daily?
Bill G.,
2/16/2007
You may not have to. But, that doesn't mean that you
shouldn't! Once in a while it is a good practice to shock the spa,
in order to not only destroy organic contamination, but to eliminate
microorganisms that might have able to survive more typical chlorine levels.
There is no set rule and every spa is different. If the spa is not going
to be used for a few days, that is always a good time, as it will not interfere
with the use of the spa. You can further reduce the need to shock,
by adding a mineral sanitizer, such as the
SPA FROG.
I hope that this information is helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
2/16/2007
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Choosing A Spa?
I'm an owner of a new spa. I've got the water chemistry
all balanced. Everything's cool, but I was wondering about something. I'm
using bromine as a sanitizer. I buy shock made for the spa which costs about
6 dollars a pound. Is it the same as the 1 pound chlorine shock bags that I
use in my swimming pool? If not, could I use this as shock for my spa? I'm
kind of confused about whether chlorine is the sanitizer used in spa shock, or
not. Thanks in advance!
Miranda, 4/10/2004
Chlorine could very well be the
active ingredient in the spa shock that you are using. Because
you are on bromine, any chlorine or non-chlorine shock will be converted into
bromine. Isn't chemistry great! The pool
shock in a bag is most likely calcium hypochlorite: you should not use
this product in the spa, as it is slow dissolving, will raise the pH and
contributes calcium to the water. The product that you are using probably
contains sodium dichlor: it is quick dissolving, essentially pH neutral
and well suited for spa shock treatment. Another good choice would be
potassium peroxymonosulfate: a non-chlorine oxidizer that will quickly
boost the bromine level and is completely soluble. I hope that I cleared
things up for you. Enjoy the spa.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
4/10/2004
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Hydrogen Peroxide?
I have a question about
the use of hydrogen peroxide in spas. Some friends of mine are using
straight hydrogen peroxide in their spas and they say it works great. They have
no way to test how much is required to do the necessary sanitizing but they say
they just add lots and it won't hurt you. This is obviously bucket
chemistry, but I do not have any knowledge about hydrogen peroxide to discuss
with them. Can you tell me about this stuff or tell me where I can go to
get this information? Thanks.
Michael G., Canmore, Alberta, Canada, 1/18/2005
The lack of specific information
about hydrogen peroxide is probably due to the fact that the material is not
recognized as a spa sanitizer. It is used as a spa oxidizer, usually in
conjunction with biguanide. There is no doubt that it is an effective
oxidizer. I would not recommend its use in a stand alone situation.
If you want to totally eliminate chlorine or bromine, hydrogen peroxide can be
used in conjunction with a
mineral sanitizer. The mineral sanitizer will
help provide sanitizing action and the hydrogen peroxide will furnish the
necessary oxidizing action. It is possible to test the peroxide level:
LaMotte Company offers a convenient test strip. Go to
www.lamotte.com
for more information. Have you considered an
ozonator? It can be
used to provide oxidizing action and will avoid handling the hazardous hydrogen
peroxide solution.
I hope that this information proves helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
1/19/2005
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Shocking And Ionization?
I have an Ionization unit and the
dealer recommended that I use a non-chlorine shock on a weekly basis. It there a
specific reason that I can't use a chlorine shock? Thank you.
Tim W.,
5/6/2004
Most people use an Ionizer to avoid the odors
associated with chlorine. Using a chlorine shock could create some of those chlorine
odors. Using a non-chlorine should help avoid odors and give you all the
benefits of a shock treatment. It is possible that the Ionizer's manufacturer has
another reason: check the owner's manual to be sure. I hope that I have been of
assistance.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
5/6/2004
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Shocking A Biguanide Spa?
Can a non-chlorine shock be used in a
spa being maintained with biguanide? I use hydrogen peroxide now, but would like to
use something else. Thanks.
Matt, 8/1/2003
Non-chlorine shock is potassium
peroxymonosulfate. It cannot be used with biguanide as a spa shock
treatment or for any other
reason. Non-chlorine shock will chemically destroy the biguanide.
Hydrogen
peroxide is the product of choice. Enjoy the spa experience!
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
8/1/2003
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Using Chlorine Or Non-Chlorine Shock?
Thank you for your informative
website. I am a new spa owner and have decided to go with sodium
dichlor, as a sanitizer. But, after reading a lot on the internet, I'm still
confused. Should I use a chlorine or non chlorine shock with this? Why
would I choose one over the other? I guess I just don't get the difference,
especially when using chlorine as the sanitizer. Thank you for your time.
Evan W., Tucson, AZ, 11/14/2007
You can
use either one. The purpose is to maintain a free chlorine level of 1-3
PPM, with the total chlorine not more than 1 PPM higher. If the total
chlorine gets to be too high, the non-chlorine might do a better job of
narrowing the difference. If you add
the
SPA FROG,
you will be able to maintain proper conditions, while adding less chlorine.
This mineral sanitizer uses silver ions to provide persistent sanitizing action, reducing the chlorine usage and chemical presence.
I hope that you will find this information helpful.
Sincerely,
Alan Schuster, 11/14/2007
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When To Shock?
Hi Alan, I just bought a house with a hot tub and have
many questions about water chemistry. I have found your web site very helpful
and have put it in my favourites. One quick question. Is there a maximum amount
of shock treatments you can do in a week? Is it dangerous doing it too often?
Are shock treatments harmful to the tub or my family? I am using bromine and it
seems that shock is the only thing that brings the levels back up. The shock is
a lithium based granule. The questions could keep coming , so I will go back to
your site and wait for your response. Thanks for your help and your web site
info! Sincerely,
Theresa, Ontario, Canada, 10/18/2003
You can shock treat your spa, as often as needed, to maintain a 3-5 PPM level of bromine.
Shock treating merely refers to the addition of a quick dissolving product that will
provide an instant boost to the bromine level of the spa water. You can use the current
product or sodium dichlor or a non-chlorine shock for this purpose. The
bromine product is slow dissolving and the easiest way to boost the level is to
add "shock." I hope that I have been helpful.
Sincerely