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Getting Started?
MY HUSBAND AND I JUST
PURCHASED AND ABOVE GROUND 30' ROUND POOL. WE JUST FILLED IT WITH WATER AND
HAVE YET TO ADD ANY CHEMICALS TO IT. CAN YOU SUGGEST HOW TO GET THE POOL
STARTED?
Lisa W., Coldwater, MS,
5/20/2008
While your
question seems simple enough and it is, it is also worthy of being on the "top
10" list. Depending upon the source of the water being used to fill the
pool, you can save yourself a lot of anguish, time and money by doing a few
things before adding chemicals. Have the water, that will be used to fill
the pool, tested for pH, total alkalinity, calcium hardness, iron and other
heavy metals might be present. If there are heavy metals present, it is
best to add one dose of a quality metal treatment, such as
Liquid Metal Trap, for each 0.5 PPM, as the pool
is being filled. If the tests for heavy metals are negative, you might
want to add a dose anyway. Allow about 6 hours of filter operation before adding
other chemicals. Now you're ready to adjust the pH, total alkalinity and
calcium hardness. Try and avoid having chemicals, especially chlorine products,
remain in prolonged direct contact with the liner: run the filter and stir
things up with the pool brush. If the pool is to be maintained on chlorine, you
should add stabilizer. Try and maintain a Free Chlorine level of 1-3 PPM, at
all times, whether the pool is being used or not. The labels are only a
guide! How much chlorine your pool will require will depend upon location,
Sun exposure, bather usage and frequency, water temperature, etc. It may sound
difficult, but is easier to do it right, than to fix it after some neglect. I hope that
these suggestions will prove helpful. Enjoy the pool.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 5/20/2008
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Messy Opening & Safety
Issues?
My husband and I
purchased a resale last December. Although the pool was operating when we
first viewed the house, it was closed and covered by the time we took title.
We know nothing about pools. Call us city folks. Over the course of
the winter, the solid plastic cover over the pool, collapsed at one end.
Evidently, this was a result of leaves and water collecting on top. I can
only imagine what a mess is now inside the pool. The pool is a vinyl
inground type, about 20 X 40. It is spring now and we are going to have to
face the challenge. Where do we start? The pool is fenced in, but
not separated from the house. I'm concerned about the kids and dog. Helpful hints will be
appreciated. Thank you.
Sharon H., Milton,
MA, 5/31/2009
It does sound
like you're in for a lot of work. If it were up to me, I would call in a
pool service company to open the pool, get everything working and start you on
the road to crystal clear water. That way, you can observe, ask
questions and, perhaps, learn about operating the equipment. A local pool
professional can help you with matters of water testing and chemicals.
But, if you want to do it yourself, here is where to start. If the cover
still has water and debris on top, get a cover pump (small submersible pump that
is attached to a garden hose and placed on top to remove water) and pump
off as much water as possible. Try and remove the debris with a pool leaf
rake: without causing a collapse. Pull the cover off, trying to keep
as much debris, as possible, out of the pool. Clean the cover, allow to dry
and store indoors until winter. Now you are looking at a disaster of a
pool, with the water somewhat below the skimmers. If your water is of good
quality and not from a well, you can start adding water. If your water is
from a well, you might want to have it tested: minerals can cause staining
and are best treated before chlorine is added. The filter has to be hooked
up: depending upon the type it may have been removed for the winter and
stored indoors. A local dealer or friend might be able to help with the
hookup. Once the filter is running, you are ready to start adding
chemicals. I would start with 2 pounds, per 5,000 gallons of pool water,
of a shock treatment. This will begin the decomposition of the leaves and
debris. Find out how to use your pool vacuum and use it to start removal
of the debris on the bottom. Have the water tested for pH, total
alkalinity, calcium hardness and chlorine stabilizer and add chemicals as
required.
Test for Free Chlorine, every few
hours, and add more shock, if the Free Chlorine level drops below 3 PPM.
The pool should start to look better and better, but could take a few days to
really clear up. I know that I have
oversimplified things, but you will get by with some common sense and some pool
dealer advice. During the summer, all this work will be a fond memory.
You might want to browse through the archives on the topics of pool maintenance,
cloudy water, etc. There are
safety products available including
Pool Alarm Systems and Gate
Alarm Systems for gates, doors and windows). These products can add a high degree of
security without the fenced in feeling. You can help protect your
dog and even some uninvited critters from drowning, because of being unable to
exit the pool. The
Skamper-Ramp
provides an easy escape route. You might check to make sure that the main
drain is an anti-entrapment design, as it can prevent serious accidents.
Local laws can vary, so make sure that all safety devices are in compliance,
with all federal and local regulations.
Being aware is, of course, always important!
I hope that I
have been of assistance. Good luck with the pool and enjoy the summer.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster/ 5/31/2009
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Not Quite
Ready To Open?
I am not going to
open the pool as early as I usually do. A friend suggested that I pull
back the cover and add a few gallons of liquid shock, in order to help keep the
water a few weeks longer. What do you think of that idea? The pool
is a vinyl inground. Thank you.
Rich G.,
Paramus, NJ, 6/2/2004
I assume that
the pool is covered and that the filter is in storage. Therefore, there is
no circulation. An vinyl lined pool should not have chlorine added without
the benefit of circulating water. This could result in some bleaching of
the liner. Adding chemicals,
especially chlorine, without the filter operating, is not a good practice.
Are you willing to risk damage to the liner? If the pool was masonry,
there would be no problem adding the chlorine. It's your decision.
The idea has merit, as long as care is taken to avoid damaging the liner.
I hope that I have been helpful.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 6/3/2004
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Jumping The Gun?
Out of
curiosity (I am in Connecticut and the pool is still covered) I did a few tests
on my pool water (gunite pool with a winter cover that lets water through) and
the pH seemed like it had gone up a lot (the pH number went up) over the winter
– is this normal? I did the acid demand test and I think it took like four
drops of the reagent that is used to measure acid demand. For one thing what is
the preferred way to bring the number down and secondly should I wait until the
pool is opened in probably six weeks or so? I would assume I need to wait as
the pump needs to be on, etc. I have heard of people around here putting some
chemicals under the cover to get a head start on the de-winterizing. Also, why
would the pH go up over the winter? From rain and snow? Thanks for your
help and a great site.
Paul B., Connecticut, 4/4/2005
That's not how
it usually works. Acid rain and carbon dioxide should cause the pH to drop -
even in CT. Being that the pool is gunite, it is possible that the walls
are influencing the pH. In any event, the sample was not representative of
the pool. It won't be until the pump is up and running. I would wait the 6
weeks and not worry about it, until the cover is off and the filter is running.
That's when a water analysis helps tell
you what to do. Putting in chemicals, under the cover, can lead to problems and
is not worth the risk!
I hope that this information proves helpful.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 4/4/2005
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Unwanted Dearly
Departed?
We just bought a new house which contained an
inground round pool. We have absolutely no experience with pools. It had
a cover but somehow both a chipmunk and lizard managed to make their final
resting place at the bottom of our pool over the winter. We removed them but
now are wondering if we should just dump the water and start over. Please help.
Thank you,
SCOTT H., 4/12/2007
In the
routine course of getting the pool back into proper condition, after a winter of
dormancy, you will have to add lots of chlorine: enough to boost and
maintain the free chlorine level at 1-3 PPM. Doing this will destroy all
traces of the dearly departed.
There
is no need to drain the pool.
This is not all that uncommon! If you are interested
in prevent a recurrence, adding a
Skamper-Ramp
will give these critters an escape from the water entrapment. If is simple
to install and does not interfere with the pool use, if you flip it onto to
deck. Good luck and enjoy the pool.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 4/12/2007
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Black Swampy
Water?
Alan, thanks for providing the
website. I live in the Detroit area and have a 24' round aboveground
pool. Upon opening this year (after years of successful openings), the
water looks like black swamp water! Cant see the bottom! There is
a silty, black substance on the liner surface under the water and I'm not sure what
to do here. Should I drain it and start over, or do I fill'er up and let
chemistry and filtration do the work? I have had excellent results
every year. I found a few holes in my winter cover after removing all the
leaves & junk and suspect that the dirty water migrated into the pool.
What do you think?
Sincerely.
Stephen B., Detroit, Michigan,
5/3/2003
Do not drain
the pool! It could result in liner shrinkage. The holes in the
cover allowed contamination into the pool and that depleted any chlorine that
might have been present. The conditions, as you have described them, are
consistent with algae growth and accumulated debris. Fill the pool up and
get the filter operating. Add 2 pounds of shock for each 5,000 gallons of
pool water. Test the water for Free Chlorine and keep adding additional
shock at the rate of 1 pound per 5,000 gallons of water, until a Free Chlorine
level of 1-3 PPM is established and remains after an overnight period.
Depending upon the actual condition of the water, it may take considerably more
shock than you might surmise. The longer you take to establish a Free
Chlorine reading, the more chlorine will be required. Adding an
algaecide will help in eliminating the algae. Adjust the pool water
chemistry on a timely basis. Make sure that the pH is not above 7.6,
inasmuch as high pH values will reduce the effectiveness of the shock
treatment. To help clear up the water, add a dose of a quality blue
clarifier. Vacuum and scoop out as much debris as possible. Things
may seen bad, but it will clear as soon as enough chlorine has been added.
Once clear, resume normal sanitizing and filtration. I hope that I have
been helpful.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 5/4/2003
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Plumbing 101?
Just discovered your website
and found it extremely helpful. I purchased a house last November with a 20x40
inground vinyl lined pool. The previous owner had closed it for the winter,
storing the pump and accessories indoors. He gave me a brief overview of what I
would need to do to open it up this spring. But, you know, the old "in one
ear and out the other." Anyway I was wondering, if you have any diagrams of
common pool plumbing and set-up. I know it's basic plumbing 101, but I could
really use something visual. Any help would be appreciated.
Eric P., Milton, Vermont, 2/24/2004
I am afraid
that I can't help with plumbing schematics. All pools are not the same, as there are many variables based on
equipment, shape, construction, etc. It's not complicated, but it is
necessary to know the specifics. If you are really a novice about pools,
consider having a professional open the pool. That would be your pool opening
101. It can save a lot of time and aggravation. You'll also find out how to
operate the equipment and get started on the right track. You will find
information on various aspects on winterizing on the "Pool Opening Page."
The number one bad mistake would be to allow all the debris, that may have
accumulated on the cover, to fall into the pool. Technique is
important! If you ever hit a bump in the road, I'll be here!
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 2/24/2004
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Water On Top?
This is my first year having my pool, we closed
the pool fine and put a pillow in the center. During the winter water, leaves,
and ice stacked up on top of the pool cover. I tried getting as much as I could
off but after it froze over I wasn't very successful. Now its spring and the ice
melted leaving a lot of water on top which is making the pool cover drop down
and on one side the cover was pulled close to inside the pool. I'm trying to
find a way to get all the water out since its so deep. Do you have any
recommendations?
Pool Rookie, 4/6/2005
There are submersible cover pumps
that can be used to remove accumulated water. Or you could take a length of
hose and create a siphon. It make take a day or so, but it will remove the
water. The more you get off, the less likely it will be that you get this
debris in the pool. Good luck and enjoy the season.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
4/6/2005
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What About The
Pump?
Alan, I just bought a home with an above ground pool. The previous
owners told me that they winterized the pump with some chemical (unknown).
The pump was not covered up or brought inside. The water looks
fine and I have read all of your information on opening pools for the summer.
My question is, what do I need to do to the pump before turning it on?
I assume turning it on would push all of this winterizing chemical into the
pool. Should I drain it and how? and Is this a good
technique for next year when I do it?
Lori H., 5/18/2003
If you were
lucky the winterizing agent was a propylene glycol based product. Since it
is all a mystery, why don't you set the filter to pump to waste for a few
minutes. That will keep the unknown out of the pool. I would prefer
to remove the pump to an indoor location for the winter. If the filter is
not a sand filter, you might be able to do the same with that as well.
Otherwise, draining and sealing off against water intrusion is next best
method. Enjoy the summer.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 5/19/2003
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Drained Away?
After looking under the
cover of our pool we found that most of the water has drained out. How do you
go about locating where the hole is in the liner, if that is the case?
Thanks.
Linda A., 3/1/2004
This may not
be the most important step to take, but try and prevent the cover and all of the
debris on top from falling into the pool. All that would do is add to the
problem. Unfortunately, you did not provide and specifics, as to pool
type. The leak could be in a main drain, return fitting or the built-in
steps. That is if there are any of these features. It is possible
that the leak is at the current water level. Mark the current depth, for
use as a reference point. If the leak was very small, if may be difficult
to see a water loss on a daily basis, because some water will be lost due to
evaporation. If the water continues to drain out slowly, it will stop at
the level of the leak. There are
dye solutions, that can be added to a
still pool, that can help trace the flow to the source of the leak. There
are companies that specialize in
leak detection. It is not a good idea to
leave a vinyl liner pool without water for extended periods, as such practice
can lead to liner shrinking. If the pool is an inground, structural damage
is possible, if substantial water has drained out. I hope that this
information will point you in the right direction. Good luck.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 3/1/2004
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Removing A
Cover?
Can you advise how to best remove an in-ground winter
cover that appears to be made of a solid material? We have not started this pool
before, as we just moved in. Thanks
Gary, 7/1/2003
There is a
definite advantage in asking before the fact! Take the cover off
incorrectly and you'll be sorry. The first thing you must do is pump off
as much water as possible. There are small submersible cover pumps that
are perfect for this task. Just attach a garden hose. Once the water
is off, try and remove as much of the debris as possible. It is probably
not possible to remove everything, but give it your best shot. When this
has been done, you are ready to remove the cover. Try and do it such a way
as to minimize the amount of debris that might fall into the pool. That's
why getting off as much as possible, before trying to remove the cover, is so
important. After the cover is removed, restore the water level, connect
the equipment and start on the road to water quality. I hope it all works
out well. Enjoy the season.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 7/2/2003
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Where To Start?
Hi Alan. Last March
(2003), we purchased an inground fiberglass pool, with a cartridge filter. The installation included the
opening of the pool and the first closing. The pool company considered the
installation and start up of the pool as our "opening", however, we were at work
the majority of the time and unfortunately were not there to see what was
involved or to take notes or ask questions. We were there to witness the
closing and took notes on the steps taken. Now it is coming up on the time to
open the pool again, however, we aren't exactly sure of what we need to do and
the pool company wants to charge us a few hundred dollars to have them do it.
Besides removing the cover and the fittings and plugs from the inlets, what else
would we need to do besides shocking it, and cleaning it and adding more water
to bring the level back up? Anti-freeze was put into the water lines, does that
have to be flushed out or anything? Do you know of any book we can read that
gives more information? Thanks for your help.
Karen T., 3/10/2004
A pool opening is essentially a
reversal of the pool closing. The one thing that you should be very
careful with is the removal of the cover. You don't want to get all that
debris into the pool. Use a cover pump to remove all of the water from the
top of the cover (if it is a solid cover) and use a skimmer net to scoop off any
debris. Once the cover is off, start adding water, remove all the plugs
and winter fittings and reconnect the filter and pump. Make sure the
filter cartridge is clean: using
The Blaster Filter Cartridge
Cleaner will make it easy. Assuming that a pool
grade antifreeze was used, it can be flushed into the pool. Once
filtration has been restarted, chemicals can be added. You will have to
add enough chlorine shock to destroy any accumulations of algae and debris and
establish an appropriate chlorine level. The other aspects of pool water
chemistry should be tested and adjusted, as necessary. Make sure that the cover is cleaned
and allowed to dry off, before storing away.
I hope that this information will point you in the right direction. Have
fun and good luck.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 3/10/2004
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Too Much
Anti-Freeze?
We used much too much
(non-toxic) antifreeze, in fear of freeze up, and now the pool water is reddish
brown due to the antifreeze. Will the sand filter trap it or do we have to
replace the water? Thanks.
R. C., 4/7/2005
Pool
antifreeze falls into two categories: a solution of propylene glycol or a
solution of freezing-point depressing salts. The propylene glycol product
can be used to winterize either lines, pumps, filters or equipment, as it is
non-corrosive to metal parts. The other type, using the solution of
freezing point depressants, is for use in plastic lines only and should have
directions that plainly indicate that limitation.
It sounds like you might have discharged some
anti-freeze that was used to protect a piece of equipment and it is possible
that corrosion has resulted because the wrong type of anti-freeze was used.
Otherwise, I can account for no other reason for this color. I suggest
that you add a dose or two of a metal treatment, in order to complex any metals
introduced into the pool. This should solve the problem with the color.
If equipment was winterized, it should be inspected for the effects of
corrosion. If you still have the containers, read the directions to see if
the product was used appropriately. Good luck and I hope that I have come
up with the explanation.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 4/7/2005
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Antifreeze In The
Pool?
Is it imperative to remove the
antifreeze from the lines rather than just letting it mix with the rest of the
water and then treating it as needed for summer start up? No one seems to know.
I have a fiberglass inground pool. If not, what is the easiest way to clear the
lines and make ready for the season? Thanks.
John, 5/13/2006
If you are using
a swimming pool antifreeze, it is expected that the product will get into the
pool. This type of product should present no hazard, once in the pool.
Enjoy the summer.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 5/13/2006
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Liner Problems?
I JUST HAD A QUESTION.
WE HAVE HAD OUR POOL FOR ABOUT 7 YEARS AND THIS YEAR OUR DOG GOT ON TOP
BECAUSE IT WAS FROZEN ATE THROUGH THE WINTER COVER AND RIPPED SEVERAL HOLES
IN THE LINER. IN SOME SPOTS THE LINER IS ALL BENT DOWN AND THE WATER IS
GOING BEHIND THE LINER AND MAKING A BIG BULGE BECAUSE IT HAS NO WHERE TO GO.
IS THIS GOING TO RUST THE SIDES OR MAKE THE SIDES COLLAPSE OR WHAT? WERE NOT
REALLY SURE WHAT TO DO ABOUT THIS PROBLEM.
Nameless, 3/21/2004
It sounds like
you have the type of liner that is suspended from a bead. The chances are
that it is repairable. The water behind the liner should drain out or
should be pumped out. I doubt that corrosion or collapse are a serious
issue, but there's not much you can do in the frozen state. As soon as the
weather permits, you might want to remove the cover and call in a vinyl liner
repair specialist. Good luck and I hope that I
have been helpful.
Sincerely. Alan
Schuster, 3/21/2004
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Unopened For 5
Years?
Dear Alan, we opened the pool
after 5 years of not opening it. We can not get the water to clear. At the pool
company everything reads normal. When it is vacuumed brown water comes out
of the jets. Does that mean there is something wrong with the pipes or the
filter? We even put in a chemical that is supposed to take the chemicals to the
bottom but that still hasn't help to clear the water. Help. Thank you.
Bonny B., Phippsburg, Maine,
6/17/2003
Picture all the
stuff that has been growing in the pipes and unreachable spots for the past 5
years. I think that you are going to have to maintain a high chlorine
level, 5-10 PPM, and keep the water recirculating. If the filter has not
been disassembled and cleaned, it should be at the top of the list. Once
the chlorine has been allowed to decompose all the accumulations of 5 years of
neglect, I'm sure that progress will be made. Good luck.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 6/17/2003
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High Pressure?
We have an inground pool.
We just opened the pool, and I usually replenish the chlorine tablets every few
days, the pump seems to have too much pressure when I turn it off as it usually
did. Could the configuration be set up wrong? There seems to be
bubbling in the pool like one of the valves is not correct. Right now we
have both the filter valve and pump valve in the on position. Is there
something else that needs to be turned on or off? Thanks.
Stephanie S., 6/3/2003
Most likely the
pressure is high because there is debris in the pump strainer, the skimmer
baskets or the filter needs to be cleaned. All three are common after a
pool is opened. If, after, normal pressure is restored, the bubbling
continues, it could be a sign of a leak or bad connection in the return
line. Check all the connections. I hope that I have been
helpful.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 6/3/2003
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Directing The
Water Flow?
I just opened my inground pool, and the pressure is fine and
it's cleaning the pool. I have 2 skimmers on the side & 2 on the
bottom. It looks like the side skimmers are not sucking in any water just
the bottom one. I had a pool company winterize it, but they were
booked so I opened it my self. The water is clear, just the side skimmers
are not sucking in any water or dirt? Why? Is it filtrating
thru the bottom 2 opening on the floor of the pool? HELP, since all the
pool guys are booked up! Thank you.
Eddie, 5/11/2003
It sounds like
a simple enough problem. Let's hope that it is!
There must be a
valve or valves that allow you to apportion the water between the skimmers and
the bottom drains. It sounds like all of the water is being directed to
the drains. Check the settings and hopefully the problem will be solved.
If not, it could be indicative of a plugged line and will require
servicing. Good luck and I hope that I have been of assistance.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 5/12/2003
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When To Open?
I live in Atlanta, GA, and
wanted to know the best time to open our inground pool. My husband says it is
to early because there are still blooms from the trees and bushes blowing all
over the place.
Dawn, Atlanta, GA, 4/19/2004
I don't know
if I would base it on the spring bloom. Given the cost of electricity, I
would choose to open a pool perhaps 2-4 weeks before there was some expectation
of actually using the pool. Otherwise, you'll incur some needless expenses.
Keep an eye on the long term weather forecast and give yourself enough time to
get things in order. Enjoy the season.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 4/19/2004
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Needs Help
ASAP?
Hi Alan, I have
a above ground pool and I kind of neglected it all winter long. Now I'm
trying to set it up again, but I have this very big problem. There's a big
build up of algae all over the pool, try to brush it but it won't brush off,
it's hard, .What's the best thing I can do to soften it so I can brush it
off? I need your help really badly. My son is having
his 2nd birthday this coming Sunday and the kids want to use the pool. How
can I fix this problem immediately?
Ty, 4/13/2003
I don't know
about immediately. How about A.S.A.P? Algae should not be hard,
unless, perhaps, it was above the water line and dried out. Raise the
water to the proper level and get the filter operating. Add two pounds of
shock, per 5000 gallons of water, and keep the filter operating
continuously.
Test
the water for pH, total alkalinity, cyanuric acid, calcium hardness and trace
metals. Your local [pool professional should be able to help
you in this area. Pay attention to the pH. The addition of all that
shock will likely raise the pH. Try and keep the pH at 7.2-7.6. Test
the pool water for Free Chlorine and additional addition shock, until you are
able to maintain a Free Chlorine level of 1-3 PPM for an overnight period.
The longer it takes to do this, the longer it will take to clear the pool. Test the Free Chlorine frequently and add more shock, if needed, and as the
water improves drop the rate to addition to 1 pound per 10000 gallons.
It may take a lot more shock than the label calls for, so be prepared! It is all related to the condition of the pool and not the strength of the
product. As the water begins to clear up, try adding algaecide and a dose
of a quality "Blue" clarifier. I hope that I have been
helpful. Good luck.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 4/14/2003
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More Pond Than Pool?
We're moving into a house
with an old (1955) huge (42x22) concrete pool not used in 4 years with very
green frog filled water. What should we do? I realize you would not be
making money on us, as we do not live near you but I appreciate at least a
little help. Should we let the water out? (it is near a stream easy to
fill from). How do we save the frogs? What do we do first? The old
filter system works we think.
Marla S., 3/25/2004
You don't have
to worry about me not making money, even if I were located around the corner.
The website is not affiliated with any chemical manufacturer and is supported by
a growing list affiliated companies. My wife is a frog collector, so she
would want to save them. It is very likely that your pool will have to be
acid washed and/or re surfaced. These things are usually done periodically
and there's no telling when the pool was last serviced or maintained. The
water from the stream sounds convenient, but could be a major source of
problems. Before using that water, have it tested for iron and other
minerals. Otherwise, you'll end up spending more on chemicals that the
water was worth. Short of pumping the water down, there's no simple way to
save the frogs. You should, in any event, scoop out as much debris and
frogs as possible. Without adding chemicals it
will be difficult, at best
to clean up filtration system, underground pipes and underwater surfaces.
Only by cleaning up the pool will a true assessment of the actual conditions and
needs be possible. When you've saved as many frogs as practical, it will
be time to start. Remove as much debris as possible, fill the pool up to
the proper level and start the filter (on recirculate if possible). Start
by adding 25 pounds of calcium hypochlorite or 25 gallons of liquid chlorine.
Remember, what you have is a pond and we are trying to make it a pool.
Lots of chlorine will be required. Test the pH and try to keep it near
7.2, as it makes the chlorine work better. Test the water for Free
Chlorine and if there is less than 1-3 PPM, add an additional 10 pounds or
gallons of chlorine. Eventually, the water will start to improve as the
chlorine destroys the contamination. When you can see bottom, vacuum and
sediment to waste. Retest the pH after every chemical addition. As
the water starts to improve, switch the filter to the filter cycle. Pay
attention to the filter pressure and return flow. Backwash or clean the
filter, as necessary. As the water begins to clear, add a dose of a blue
clarifier, to help remove fine particles. Keep adding chlorine, until you
are able to maintain a 1-3 PPM level of Free chlorine, after an overnight
period. Once you have reached a stable chlorine level and the water
chemistry is optimized, you should be able to assess the condition of the
underwater surfaces. Does it need a resurfacing or will an acid wash be
OK? I can't help with that answer. You might want to call in a
service company for an opinion, if your knowledge of pools is limited. If you are interested
in prevent a recurrence, of the frog invasion, adding a
Skamper-Ramp
will give them an escape route from the water entrapment. It is simple to
install and does not interfere with the pool use, if you flip it onto to deck. I
hope that I have been of some help - you'll need it!
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 3/25/2004
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Off To A Bad
Start?
We
opened our inground pool after a long hard winter and found the built in
concrete steps needed to be restructured and, after some quotes & opinions,
decided to have the stairs fiber glassed. The fiberglass company advised us
that we could drain the pool to the floor of the shallow end keeping the deep
end in approx 5 feet of water. We did this-even though other companies
told us we shouldn't. The long story short, they fixed & fiber glassed the
stairs, but the sand around the deep end caved in at various locations around the
pool. the guys told us to refill the pool and he would have guys in to
"push it back". The water guy says he's full of you know what.
Can that be done and, if not, what can we do? Thanks.
Kathy,
Abington MA, 5/13/2003
Draining
a pool always involves a risk and I always advise against it, unless there is no
other choice. Every pool and situation is different to some extent.
I'm a chemist and not a construction expert, so there is nothing definitive that
I can say about the situation. I don't know what I can suggest other than
to get some other opinions before doing anything. Good luck and I'm sorry
that the season started off on the wrong track for you.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 5/13/2003
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Choice Of Water Supply?
I am having a pool installed basic 20X40 inground pool. I estimate @
35,000 gals needed. I have a well and don't want to use it to fill the
pool. I also have a stream that leads to a local reservoir. This
time of year it is very active and I could easily pump water from the stream to
the pool. Will this cause me big problems in the future? If I have
the water trucked in how do I know that the trucking company did not get the
water from the CT river? ( I
live in Conn). Please advise?
TOM D., CT, 11/21/2006
I am not sure either is a good
option. I suggest that you sample both and have a local pool
store do some testing. Primarily, you are looking to avoid water with
high iron content or high hardness. You should add several doses of a
quality metal treatment before the water is added. A
METALTRAP
Filter unit, that you attach to the hose, will remove
lots of the problem metals and minerals. It can make marginal water less likely to
cause problems and save you time and money, in the long run. I hope that this information will be helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 11/21/2006
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Filling From The Pond?
Alan, this looks like a very useful site. We are
in the process of installing a
Viking Fiberglass Pool. The
pool is in and they filled it (while backfilling) with water from a
pond. There are fish in the pond so its not polluted with
chemicals, but there are geese as well. The builder (very reputable
- in business for 40 years) is saying that it is common to do this.
I would have preferred a tanker with fresh water. My wife was
horrified. He says the water will clean up and be as clear as tap
water when they are through. I'm a little uneasy. Should I be?
Also, How will I know which section of your website this question
would be answered in? Thanks.
Del C., Fort Wayne, IN, 4/10/2007
Actually, the exact question
probably is not on the website, but I will add it. You will
receive an email reply, as I answer far too many questions to put them
all on the website. The use of natural water is not
uncommon, especially in rural areas. The presence of waste from
the pond's current inhabitants is not a major issue. Chlorine
will destroy all of the organic content and the filter should do the
rest. Just to protect against the presence of iron and other
metals, I would add at least two doses of a
quality metal treatment. To be
sure, have the pond water tested for iron and other metals. If
present, add at least a dose of each 0.5 PPM found and another dose
monthly. Inasmuch as pond waters vary, there is no uniform
works everywhere scenario. The
PURESTART Pre-Filter
can remove
the organic products, that are typically found in naturally occurring
water supplies. This can help you avoid staining, discoloration
and help you get the chemistry balanced sooner. Test the water and adjust the pool
water parameters, as necessary, to the recommended levels: pH,
chlorine, total alkalinity, calcium hardness, chlorine stabilizer and
heavy metals. Good luck with pool and I hope this
information proves helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 4/10/2007
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What To
Do?
My above ground pool
was just opened, after having been closed for the winter. The water was
not in bad shape. After trying, without success to start up the filter, I
decided to bring the pump and motor in for some repair. It won't be ready
for 3-4 days. Can you suggest anything to do until the equipment is ready?
Thanks. Sincerely.
John H., Pottsville, PA,
5/31/2003
Without the
filter operating there is not much that can be done. Your above ground
pool requires that some care must be taken to avoid damaging
the vinyl liner.
I
would not add granular chlorine to the pool: you don't want product
sitting on the bottom, especially without water circulation.
If you would like to add chlorine, use liquid chlorine. Pour it into the
water away from the walls and use a vacuum pole or water stream from a garden
hose to help distribute and dilute the chlorine. Use a leave rack to
remove any debris that might have fallen into the pool, during removal of the
cover. Be patient, you have the whole summer ahead of you. Enjoy the
summer.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 5/31/2003
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Opening With A Salt Chlorinator?
This is our first time opening using
the salt system and I think we have trouble. I have above ground
24ft. x 48in. pool. at the end of last summer, we installed saltwater
system and (upon changing systems our water got really green then just
as we seemed to get water stabilized and clear, it was time to
winterize and close . Upon opening the pool this weekend, the water is
very, very dark. we have just completed adding the water to the needed
level, and seems we need to shock 'big time' to clear to water. My
question. Do we start up with opening procedure, as before the
saltwater system, (shock, etc) while adding the extra salt (because of
adding additional water) or do we shock, etc. get the water stable and
clear, then add salt?? We live in Nashville, TN. Our winters
are becoming so mild, I think next winter I will keep the pool open and
running to help alleviate this situation. Please help
Sherry, Nashville, TN 3/27/2007
Do everything, the same
as before, and adjust the salt level to the proper range. You will have to
add shock, as needed, to help destroy all of the contamination. The faster, the
chlorine level is raised, the better. Adjust the other water chemistry
parameters, as required. Once done, the
Salt
Chlorine Generator
should be better able to maintain the level. Make sure that the salt cell
is clean and that all connections are tight. I hope this information
helps.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 3/27/2007
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Green
Pool Water?
Do
I want to add an algaecide while I'm shocking the pool to get rid of green
water?
Stephen, 3/19/2004
Sounds like a pool
opening? If this is the case, make sure that you vacuum out any debris,
as soon as possible. It will help reduce the amount of shock needed to
clear up the water. Always allow each chemical to dissolve in turn. Never
mix different chemicals together. Algaecides are commonly added
before or after shocking. To get rid of the algae it is important to
maintain a
Free
Chlorine reading of at least 1-3 PPM, after an overnight period. It
may be necessary to add more than 1 dose of shocking, depending upon the
condition of the pool. Test the water a few hours after addition and
add more shock, if required. Refer to the archives for more on this
topic. I hope that I have been helpful.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 3/20/2004
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