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Coatings and paints are a viable alternative to plastering.
 

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Pool Plastering Versus Painting

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Plastering versus painting a pool is a topic that is considered by many pool owners, as to advantages, appearance and costs.  Masonry and fiberglass pools can be finished with a variety of coatings, paints and techniques including:   epoxy, paint, pvc and fiberglass.  There are advantages and disadvantages, cost considerations, suitability and life-expectancies to consider, when deciding which product or coating to choose for a new pool or a pool resurfacing or refinishing.  Clicking on the underlined and highlighted "keywords" or "catch phrases," in the archived answers will give you access to additional information on that topic or product.

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From The Ugliest Pool Ever To WOW?
 

I found your informative website via Google.  Great site!  So my tight-wad husband won't let me re-plaster our disaster-of-a-pool!  It's 60 years old...evidently between copper piping and PVC, there was another type of piping used...this is how we learned of it's true age.  Anyway, it desperately needs to be re-plastered, but he insists that it's not in the budget and finally agreed that I can paint the bottom.  So as it's draining, I had a wild idea of painting a huge bucking bronco on the bottom!  Can you recommend what type of paint?  And a sealer? How long can I expect to get out of this quick-cheap-fix?  Many thanks!
 

Julie C., Arizona, 4/16/2006
 

It doesn't have to be a quick fix. Use the right product and it can last a long time. Ultra Poly One Coat should work well and comes in a variety of colors, with a 15-year warranty.  No sealer is required!  For more information go to:  www.polysolutionsinc.com  Good luck with the project.
 

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 4/16/2006
 

I know/understand that this is your product, and when I compare it to some other products, I will also have to use a bond coat, and three coats to get a 5-year warranty.  I really am looking for something that will not look like I am "making-do." It seems like I can do my mural in the bottom of the pool in gray, and then paint the rest of the pool black. I have seen other black-bottom pools (I do not know what the material was) that look chalky and ugly after two years or so. Does your 15-year warranty promise that this WON'T happen?  Would two coats give me a better chance of a good-look longer?  Many, many thanks for your time!  I really believe that I am getting somewhere!
 

Julie C., 4/17/2006
 

It is not my product. I don't manufacturer anything. I just pointed you in the direction of a quality pool finish.  Ultra Poly One Coat requires that you clean the pool with a thorough power washing.  After the pool dries you can start rolling it on.  It only takes one coat and does not require a primer or sealer. Humidity, during application is not important, as can be the case with other products.  Give Colleen Krause a call at 724 449-1040. She will help you find a contractor and/or a source for the paint.

 

Good luck.  Alan Schuster, 4/17/2006

Oh my!  Well then, I trust your opinion EVEN MORE!  THANK YOU!  I will call Colleen.  I see I never finished my thoughts, when I was comparing Ultra Poly One Coat with those other brands.  Do you still believe that Ultra Poly One Coat is the best solution?  My pool is BY FAR the ugliest pool anyone has EVER seen!  Promise!  Thanks again!
 

Julie, 4/17/2006
 

Ultra Poly One Coat only requires one coat and no primer or sealer.  Others paints require  multiple coats and/or primers and/or sealers.  They may cost less by the gallon, but use more gallons and time.  Some paints require low humidity to apply, as if that's easily done in a place like Florida or in most places in the summer.  Ultra Poly One Coat seems a good choice, based on the information that I have seen and the questions I have asked.  Do some R&D on the others, if you still need convincing.  I hope that you will take the time to repair any defects on the pool surface.  Otherwise, it can detract from a perfect refinishing job.
 

Good luck.  Alan Schuster, 4/18/2006


WOW
!  Great stuff!  LOOKS BRAND NEW!  Thanks for all the help and advice!


Julie C., 6/2/2006

 

 

 

Gunite Needs Finishing?

Our freeform gunite pool (with spa attached) is at a point where it needs refinishing.  We have had a couple estimates on replastering which is quite expensive.  One company mentioned a PVC pool coating but didn't have any details other than he heard about it recently at a trade show.  I am having trouble finding a company in our area (Northern Virginia) that does PVC pool coating to find our more information.  Is PVC coating comparable in price to replastering?  Is one method better than another for refinishing an existing gunite pool that is over 10 years old?  Your advice is greatly appreciated.

Tammy R., Virginia, 3/10/2009
 

I am not at all familiar with the PVC product.  A gunite pool at 10 is still pretty young.  I suspect that the product you are investigating is quite different than the marcite finish, presently in use.   I have no idea as to cost differentials or life expectancies.  If you consider the cost over 10 years, are you comfortable with all of the unknowns?  Will this PVC material hold up over time?  Will this material cover existing blemishes?  Will this material enhance the look of your pool?  You might look into other viable pool resurfacing alternatives, such as pool paints or epoxy coatings.   Or visit:  www.polysolutionsinc.com It's your decision, but I hope that I have been of assistance.
 

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 3/10/2009

 

 

 
Chlorinated Rubber Or Hybrid Epoxy?

I have read through what you have on the website regarding painting pools.  I know that the Ultra Poly One Coat is your recommendation.  However, we have already purchased a chlorinated rubber paint.  Originally we had intended to go with the Rubber Synthetic paint, that another dealer carries but they were out of it and couldn't get it in the time frame that we needed.  So, we found out about this chlorinated rubber paint.  We have already power washed, 1st round of TSP wash, Acid washed, and 2nd round of TSP wash, so we are ready to paint.  I am wanting to know your opinion or experience with these products.  Please let me know your thoughts.

Brandy C., Midland, TX 3/8/2008

I am not familiar with these products, in particular.  However, in general, chlorinated rubber paints are not the same, as they were years ago, because of EPA involvement.  They sought to eliminate or minimize the ecologically harmful ingredients.  The result are paint formulas that do not last as long, as they could or should.  You might have to repaint every 1-3 years, depending upon local conditions.  This type of paint is more restrictive, in the conditions required for application:  humidity is one example of something of concern.  Ultra Poly One Coat is a hybrid epoxy  coating, that is easier to apply and requires less preparation.  The rubber paint product is more hazardous than other products, such as Ultra Poly One Coat, which is a hybrid epoxy and is more eco-friendly.  If you use this product, it will look fine, but will not last for 15-years, as Ultra Poly One Coat is capable.  Of course, to repaint you have to go through all of the effort and expenditures of refilling and adding new chemicals.   These rubber paints are a less-expensive way to get the pool looking good, but one that will not retain the new look for a long time.  For more information on Ultra Poly One Coat go to:  www.polysolutionsinc.com.  I am sorry, if this is not what you wanted to hear, but it is based on the best information, that I have available.  Good luck with the painting.

 

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 4/8/2008

 

 

 

Looking Great!!!
 

Alan,  I thought you might be interested in seeing the results of my recent application of Ultra Poly One Coat.  It looks great!  Thanks for your advice.  Sincerely.

Paul A.,  Orlando, FL, 3/17/2009

 

It does look great!!!  It may not have ever looked better.  Thanks for the photos.  Like they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.

 

Before After


Sincerely.  Alan Schuster 3/17/2009

 

 

 

Ultra Poly One Coat Or Plaster?

 

I am considering painting my plaster pool with Ultra Poly One Coat because of existing stains.  I have drained the pool, and washed some areas with a diluted muriatic acid.  This did leave a brighter white, but has not been able to remove the darker stains.  Additionally, it has left some sort of pink hue to the plaster where it was applied.  Basically, it looks bad and I am reluctant to do this to the entire pool.  I hate to ruin the plaster that I know is only a few years old.  I would like to know about the stain resistance of the ultra one coat, as that is the reason I am in this situation in the first place.  There are many trees around the pool, so I get a few acorns and leaves.  I use a, automatic cleaner daily, when the pool is open.  But, even with the cover on during the winter some debris will work its way in and stain it.  I calculated that I would need 9 gallons, so it would not be inexpensive.  Money well spent?  I think only if the stain resistance is high, and durability is great.  What do you think?  Thanks.

Matthew R., 4/30/2007

Evidently, your pool is in a stain prone situation.  Normally, staining from leaves and acorns comes off with chlorine and good circulation.  However, metal and mineral stains are more difficult to remove, especially from masonry surfaces.  Pool plaster has an interaction with the pool water, which is why the pH tends to rise.  It is also more likely to get stained by minerals or metals, present in the water.  Some finishes are rougher to the touch and could make algae growth more likely, than with a smoother finish.  So why aren't all pools painted? Because paints were not always as good as they are now and some people prefer the look of a masonry finish.  Ultra Poly One Coat is more chemically resistant and has a 15 year warranty.  It will make the control of the chemistry easier and should be far less prone to staining.  All the preparation is a power washing, and one coat does it.  No primers or sealers are needed and humidity, during application, is not an issue.  Cost wise, it will be less expensive than a plaster or aggregate finish.  Ultra Poly One Coat is a high performance, hybrid-epoxy, coating than can make pool chemical maintenance easier, while providing a beautiful, long-lasting finish.  I hope that this information is helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 4/30/2007
 

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Painting Over Chlorinated Rubber Paint?

Can Ultra Poly One Coat be used over a chlorinated rubber pool paint (over gunite) that has been thoroughly cleaned and power washed?  Thanks.

Brian B., 5/25/2008

Good question.  Fortunately, it gets asked a lot.  Power washing can remove some of the chlorinated rubber paint.  Sometimes, some of it is so well adhered that it won't come off.  If that is the case, just paint right over these areas.  All Ultra Poly One Coat requires, for preparation, is a 3500 PSI power washing and a cleaning with a citrus based cleaner.  I hope this information proves helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 5/26/2008

 

 

Painting Over Marcite?

I have a pool that has marcite on it now.  Can I surface it with pool paint?  The pool is 16' x 36'.  How much paint would I need? 

James W., VA, 3/17/2004

It can be done.  You will have to fix any surface blemishes and prepare the surface according to the paint manufacturer's instructions.  Your pool has just over 900 square feet of interior surface.  After deciding on the pool paint or coating product, the instructions should provide the expected square foot of coverage, per gallon of product.  For more information on Ultra Poly One Coat:  a hybrid epoxy, high technology pool coating - click here. Have fun!

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 3/17/2004

 

► Painting Over The Gunite?

We have a pool that is about 12 yrs old it is a concrete pool, that was built putting a fiber mesh then gunite, as I was told by original owners.  The people I bought house from  painted it just prior to us buying house.  We could see, and feel, as I call it soft spots, almost bubbling . Spots that were painted - you could see mesh.  After 5 yrs we just drained the pool and  the previous paint, plaster and mesh are just peeling off in large sheets down to concrete.  We plan on doing the work ourselves.  The concrete underneath is sound.  Will Ultra Poly One Coat work and what is needed.  Thanks.

Moeb, 1/19/2009

Before using Ultra Poly One Coat, you will have to remove the mesh.  This is not normal pool construction.  The surface defects should be repaired with hydraulic cement or epoxy fillers.  No silicone caulk!  The surface must be sound and without structural cracks.  Small hair line cracks might be fixed with epoxy.  A structural crack needs special attention, as it is likely to expand.  A properly painted pool will be easier to maintain than a plastered pool.  The chemistry will be more consistent and there will be fewer places for the algae to hide.  There are lots of paints out there.  Some need all sorts of preparation.  Others can't be applied, if the humidity is above a certain level - which probably won't happen during the summer months.  Some paints need several coats.  Not everyone takes the time to do it right and the result could  a poor job.  A contractor can skimp and offer a lower price.  Not really a bargain, if the pool does not look as it should.  Ultra Poly One Coat is a high performance, hybrid-epoxy formula that only requires a single coat.  It is very durable and long lasting.  Surface preparation consists of a cleaning with a citrate solution and then a power washing.  Humidity is not an issue and no primers or top coats are required.  I hope that this information is helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 1/19/2008

 

Fixing Surface Crack?

I am planning on repainting my gunite pool next year.  I have notices a crack, on the mid-surface of the side wall, about 2 feet long.  I am not losing any water, above normal, so far as I know.  I would like to repair the problem spot this year and paint next year.  Thanks for the help.

Mike H., Lakeland, FL 4/23/2005

It is a good idea to do something to prevent water getting behind the original plaster finish.  Torque-Lock will be able to stabilize the crack and prevent expansion.  It is countersunk across the crack and torque is applied to hold the opposite sides in place.  You fill the void with epoxy and can use hydraulic cement to cover the repair.  The last step, when you're ready, would be painting.   Ultra Poly One Coat would be an excellent choice, as it is easier to apply, repairs no priming or topcoat and has a great warranty.  Good luck and I hope that I have been helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 4/23/2005

 

► Fiberglass Over Plastered Pool?

I have a plastered concrete pool that I want to resurface w/fiberglass.  Do I have to  treat the concrete with anything so the fiberglass can adhere to it?

Herb G., 9/25/2008

Some sort of preparation will surely be required.  You need to check this with the manufacturer.  This is not something, that I recommend, based on the negative feedback, that I have received.  Everything from irritations caused by protruding fibers, to delamination and separation from the underlying plastered surface.  And was done, by professional companies!  I am sure there are good outcomes, but they are not the people writing to me.  You might give thought to using Ultra Poly One Coat.

Ultra Poly One Coat is a high performance, hybrid -epoxy formula that only requires a single coat.  It is very durable and long lasting.  Surface preparation consists of a cleaning with a citrate solution and then a power washing.  Humidity is not an issue and no primers or top coats are required.  The end product will be easier to care for and less likely to stain.  I hope that this information will prove helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 9/25/2008

 

► Down The Road 15 Years?

Our 13 year old plaster pool has some areas that seem to show the gunite "shell" and some pitting of the plaster along with some tea colored stains.  We've used the ascorbic acid treatment one year and the pool looked great but-time is working against us.  As a side note, we've always had a pH problem with this pool.  Having kids in college doesn't free up enough funds to replaster and the pool needs to be up and running in short order.  With regards, to the Ultra Poly One Coat product, shown on your site, what's the "replacement plan" after the 15 years?  In other words, if we make it through the 15 years, what would need to be done to the pool to "freshen" the then 28 year old pool?  Removal of epoxy finish?  How's this done?  Thanks in advance,

S. J., 4/24/2008

That's a fair question!  Fifteen years down the road, at the end of Ultra Poly One Coat's useful life, you will have two options:  apply a fresh coat and be happy for another 15 years or have the pool sandblasted and replastered.  A properly painted pool will be easier to maintain than a plastered pool.  The chemistry will be more consistent and there will be fewer places for the algae to hide.  There are lots of paints out there.  Some need all sorts of preparation.  Others can't be applied, if the humidity is above a certain level - which probably won't happen during the summer months.  Some paints need several coats.  Not everyone takes the time to do it right and the result could  a poor job.  A contractor can skimp and offer a lower price.  Not really a bargain, if the pool does not look as it should.  Ultra Poly One Coat is a high performance, hybrid -epoxy formula that only requires a single coat.  It is very durable and HAS A 15-year warranty.  Surface preparation consists of a cleaning with a citrus cleaning solution and then a power washing.  Humidity is not an issue and no primers or top coats are required. Undecided?  Read the first letter on this website page.  I hope that this information proves helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 4/24/2008

 

Problems With Chlorinated Rubber Coatings?

A few years back we tried a chlorinated rubber coating product that was supposed to be ok over anything (we did power wash, etc.), was used on commercial waterslides, was guaranteed for 20 years, etc.  That product did not stick and has been coming up in sheets.  Since that time we have learned that you can't put many coatings over originally rubber-based painted pools.  What is different about Ultra Poly One Coat that we would not have the same problem.  Is there some different prep that would be the "ultimate" prep we should do to get the maximum lifetime out of Ultra Poly One Coat?  We are sick of doing this every year or two.  Thanks for your help.

 
Steve S.,  Massillon, Ohio, 5/12/2007

The problem is that rubber coatings, as well as others, can't be applied to a smooth surface.  They require a rough surface and that, evidently, was not the case, as suggested by the product coming off in sheets.  Organic solvents are being phased out of coatings, for environmental; reasons, and no longer are there to dissolve into an existing coating.  Ultra Poly One Coat, which contains no Volatile Organic Compounds, can be applied to a smooth finish, so long as it has been thoroughly cleaned and power washed and the surface is intact.  I suggest that you power wash off as much of the existing coating as possible.  If you come across a few spots that cannot be removed, probably because it was applied over a rougher spot, it will be OK to paint over them with Ultra Poly One Coat.  The product is a hybrid epoxy that is easier to apply, only a single coat is required, not dependent on a lack of humid conditions during application, requires no priming or sealers and has a 15 year warranty.  For more information on this product go to:  www.polysolutionsinc.com  I hope that this information will prove helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 5/12/2007

 

New Water Line Area?

We have a fiber glass lined in ground pool that has worked well.  But, the scum line area, which was painted, has faded and looks mottled.   My wife wanted to put in tiles, which are used a lot around here, but I'm wondering if there is some other product?  Some sort of a scum line border, that offers the ease of cleaning and the fade resistance of tiles without the costly and difficult installation?  Thank you.

Ed W., Gainesville, FL, 4/2/2003

A new tile border is probably the easiest and least expensive way to go.  There are waterline border materials that can be attached with track, on top of the existing pool surface.  There is also an adhesive border that can be easily applied to create a new water line.  For more information on BorderLines click here. In the future, you might consider refinishing the entire pool, with a product such as Ultra Poly One Coat.  It is long lasting coating, that is more stain resistant and less prone to interact with the pool water chemistry.  Good luck.  I hope that I was helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 4/3/2003

Easily Create A Beautiful New WaterLine!

Humidity During Application?

I am in South Texas, and we are currently in rainy season. Though no hurricanes yet, just the odd thunderstorm.  I imagine that the winter or next Summer before hurricane season would be best time to refinish?  One question. I just spoke to a pool contractor who advised me 'against' an epoxy pool, citing the humidity in this area and reacting with them.  He gave an example of epoxy wearing off on swimmers who brushed against a particular pool wall after only 3 years. The epoxy had a much longer warranty. Any opinions regarding this?

James J., Brownsville, TX 9/14/2006

I understand that humidity during application is a major consideration with some finishes.  I can't imagine how they get the humidity to cooperate in Florida, Louisiana or South Texas.  The truth is they probably don't and that can result in poor results.  Ultra Poly One Coat is a hybrid epoxy finish and humidity is not a problem.  Just power wash thoroughly and you're ready to roll.  One coat will do it and it has a 15 year warranty.  Take a look at the first letter on this website page.  I hope that I have been helpful.  If so, please tell your friends and dealers about the website.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 9/14/2006


 

Choosing The Right Paint?
 

I have a 20 X 40 concrete pool, approximately 25 years old.  What do I need to purchase/prepare the surface for the Ultra Poly One Coat, other than the paint itself? Thanks

 

Alice H. Mansfield, MA, 4/24/2008

 

All you need to is to power wash and use a citrus-type cleaner.  Defects in the surface should be patched or filled in.  Do not use a silicone based product.  A properly painted pool will be easier to maintain than a plastered pool.  The chemistry will be more consistent and there will be fewer places for the algae to hide.  There are lots of paints out there.  Some need all sorts of preparation.  Others can't be applied, if the humidity is above a certain level - which probably won't happen during the summer months.  Some paints need several coats.  Not everyone takes the time to do it right and the result could  a poor job.  A contractor can skimp and offer a lower price.  Not really a bargain, if the pool does not look as it should.  Ultra Poly One Coat is a high performance, hybrid -epoxy formula that only requires a single coat.  It is very durable and long lasting.  Surface preparation consists of a power washing, followed by a cleaning with a citrus-type cleaning solution.  Humidity is not an issue and no primers or top coats are required.  Undecided?  Read the first letter on this website page!  For complete product application and surface preparation instructions:  click here.  I hope that this information will; be helpful.

 

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 4/24/2008

 

Thank you for your reply.  My concern is the power wash with 3000 psi and how much of the concrete will be removed.  The pool is 25 years old.  Would you please suggest a pool repair product for holes/cracks that is compatible?  Also, what do you know about some other epoxy paints.  One, in particular, does not require the power washing, but the TSP process.  Thanks again for your information,

 

Alice H., 4/25/2008

A strong power washing should not adversely affect a sound plastered finish.  If the finish is in poor condition or is crumbling, just painting will not suffice.  The weak areas should be repaired, should they be revealed by a power washing.  Better before painting, than afterwards.  There are various products, sold by pool dealers for patching and repairing surface defects.  Do not use a silicone based product, as it can interfere with the painting.  Ultra Poly One Coat only requires a power washing and a simple cleaning with a citrus-based cleaner.  Nothing else is required.  This hybrid epoxy has a 15-year warranty, requires no priming, no sealers, no second coat and is really a professional-grade product.  The other product is an epoxy and was formulated for home owner use.  It requires more surface preparation and may include the need to prime and even apply a second coat.  It would not be my choice.  I hope that this helps you make the right decision.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 4/25/2008

 

Concerned About Slippery Surfaces?

I have a marcite pool that needs to be refinished.  My main concern is that I don't want the pool to be slippery which is why I hesitate to paint.  I was considering just painting the walls and deep end and maybe decorating the remainder.   Does that sound dumb?

Mike F, New York, 9/22/2008

Not dumb!!!  Better safe than sorry.  However, there is a better solution.  Ultra Poly One Coat is hybrid epoxy coating that comes with an industrial grade, non-skid grit additive, that can be added to the material applied to the steps, shallow end and slopes.  It is intended to reduce slipping and avoid accidents.  This way the color is uniform, throughout the pool.  I hope that this information will put your mind at ease.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 9/22/2008

 

Leaves Stained Painted Pool?

Alan, we have an in-ground pool which appears to have a recent, white paint coating.  The finish was really nice when we moved in last year.  However, during the winter, leaves blew in and left small stains on the bottom.  We drained the pool last week and hope you can recommend a procedure for taking out the stains.  Thanks Alan.

Greg G., Burbank, CA, 2/17/2004

If the stains are really from leaves, it was not necessary to drain the pool.  Leaves can stain all types of pool surfaces, as tannins leach from the decomposing vegetation.  Chlorine should have been added, sufficient to boost the level to about 5 PPM of Free Chlorine and should completely remove all of the tannins within a day.  The pool paint/coating should clean up nicely, once the tannins are eliminated.  If the pool, is still empty, test this on an area, using a diluted chlorine solution (2-3 %).  Try and refill the pool ASAP, as you don't know how the paint or pool might be affected, by remaining empty.  I hope that I have been of help.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 2/17/2004

 

Refinished Fiberglass Pool Problem?

I had my water checked by a pool store all the tests were OK.  I am really perplexed I had this pool regelcoated last year after the hurricanes and could it be that the gelcoat is coming off somehow?  I realize that not being able to see the pool it is hard for you to say, but I just don't no what to do at this point?  Thanks.

Dennis S., Florida, 3/8/2006

If the surface was not prepared properly, I would imagine that adhesion of the new finish could be an issue. However, there is no way for me to be sure. I suggest that you have a few people take at look at the pool. It is easy to blame the water chemistry, but it should not be the cause, if the chemistry was even close to ideal.   There are other ways to refinish a fiberglass pool and help minimize stains. Take a look at Ultra Poly One Coat.  It is a high performance coating that solves and avoids problems.  I hope that this information will help. Sorry that I couldn't be more definitive.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 3/9/2006

 

Unhappy With Paint?

Hi Alan.  Please get the word out to consumers about painting their pools!  I have used all types: rubber based and epoxies from all sorts of manufacturers and they can chalk, blister. if not properly applied. I have been in this industry long enough to know what products are good and what aren't. I use cement base products to resurface pools and if applied properly, will last a very long time. Good forum and keep up the good work!  Sincerely.

John, 10/1/2004

I'll post your letter.  There are a lot of painted pools out there.  There are factors that make for a successful pool paint or coating application. Surface preparation is very important for all types of finishes, in order to avoid surface blemishes and problems.  Chalky deposits can simply be the result of high calcium hardness levels that lead to scale deposits and are not limited to painted pools.  I agree that a masonry finish can be very attractive.  However,  masonry finishes can stain and are more likely to interact with the pool water chemistry.  Ultra Poly One Coat is a high tech finish that is easier to apply and has a 15-year warranty and it is beautiful to look at!  For some people, it is a matter of do-it-yourself or cost.  I'm glad that you found the website helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 10/1/2004

 

Empty A Few Months Before Painting?

My pool got black algae, so I drained it completely. There are a few hairline cracks which need to be repaired. I don't think I have any leaks. I plan to sand blast the surface to get rid of the black algae, chip out the cracks, re-epoxy, then repaint pool surface. My question is, am I doing any harm by leaving my pool empty for a few months? I can't seem to find any straight answers to this question.

Tom in San Angelo, TX, 1/12/2007

There is no sure-fire definitive answer.  Most likely the pool will be OK.  Unless the water table is very high or there are very heavy rains.  That could cause the pool to pop up or shift, especially if there is no hydrostatic pressure relief valve.  To be on the safe side, ask the builder about the conditions in your locale.  A local pool dealer might be helpful.  A properly painted pool will be easier to maintain than a plastered pool.  The chemistry will be more consistent and there will be fewer places for the algae to hide.  There are lots of paints out there.  Some need all sorts of preparation.  Others can't be applied, if the humidity is above a certain level, which probably won't happen during the summer months.  Some paints need several coats.  Not everyone takes the time to do it right and the result could  a poor job.  A contractor can skimp and offer a lower price.  Not really a bargain, if the pool does not look as it should.  Ultra Poly One Coat is a high performance, hybrid -epoxy formula that only requires a single coat.  It is very durable and long lasting.  Surface preparation consists of a thorough power washing.  Humidity is not an issue and no primers or top coats are required.  Read the first letter on this page.  I hope that this information proves to be helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 1/12/2007

 

Peeling Paint?

We bought a resale house last summer ad the previous owner told us that he just recently painted the gunite pool.  Recently, we noticed that some of the paint is peeling.  What causes this? 

Brian T., Melbourne, FL 2/1/2006

He may have painted the pool, but he doesn't seem to have prepared the surface properly or used a quality product.  Probably, he just wanted it to look good until the property was sold.  No matter what kind of finish or coating is used, it needs to be applied correctly,  to a surface that has been properly prepared.   Possibly the paint will have to be sand blasted off and a new coating applied, in an appropriate manner.  It might not have been the product that was at fault.  For all you know, he could have use house paint!  Good luck.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 2/1/2006

 

Chalky, White Scale Deposits?

I had a inground fiberglass pool painted last September.  It has a salt generator and a DE filter system.  I live in Florida so we were able to use it until November with solar heat from solar roof panels. At this time, I notice a chalky, white scale substance on the sides and bottom of the pool. When I brush this off it sinks to the bottom and gets vacuumed up where it gets trapped in the basket at the pump.  Except for one time when I needed to add 1 gallon of acid, 1 month after the pool was refinished, the water has always been crystal clear, and perfect.  What is this chalky, white scale? Is it something from the pool coating or calcium or what?  It comes off, but you have to really brush hard.  Is there a chemical that will help get this off?  Thanks for any help.

Robert. L., Florida, 3/8/2006

A salt chlorine generator will tend to raise the pH and the total alkalinity.  This, in turn, can lead to calcium scale formation, if the calcium hardness level is over 400 PPM.  Three factors contribute to scaling conditions:  high calcium hardness (usually over 400 PPM), high pH (usually over 7.8) and total alkalinity (usually over 200 PPM).   All three together make it even worse.  You can lower the pH and TA with acid.  The calcium hardness might be controlled, but not necessarily lowered, by adding a calcium sequestering agent.  I suggest that you test the water for pH, TA and calcium hardness.  The Langelier Index will tell you if the water is scale forming and help improve the situation.  This type of problem could happen on any pool surface:  marcite, exposed aggregate, fiberglass. vinyl or paint.  It is a water chemistry problem and not a refinishing problem.  I hope that this information will prove helpful.
 

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 3/8/2006

 

 

 

Concrete Stain For Color?
 

Alan, I'm  pool builder, retailer, I'm asking if you know of a product that will "color" existing plaster?  Similar to the way concrete can be stained with a acid based staining product.  Thanks.


Dan H., 12/27/2006

There is no "stain" product than can be used, that I am aware of.  Usually when the color and finish have deteriorated over time, the surface must be redone to keep things water tight and maintain the integrity of the plaster surface.  I don't see a stain doing that or providing a uniform appearance.  Have you ever consider Ultra Poly One Coat?  This is a beautiful finish and has a 15 year warranty.  Read the first letter on this page.  I hope that this information will prove helpful.  Enjoy the holidays and the new year

 
Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 12/27/2006

 

 

A New Finish Is Needed?

Hi.  Thanks for the help. I have a pool in so-so shape. It is cement and the finish is discoloring in spots. I thought to paint it. However, some said that the painting will cause more problems, and so not to do it.  Any ideas?  Thanks again.

Bud E., 9/8/2004

You have several choices:  marcite, exposed aggregate or fiber glass, in addition to pool paints and coatings.  A new finish can restore the look of the pool.  You have cost considerations to evaluate.  If the surface is in poor condition, just painting it may not be enough.  If the surface has to be repaired, perhaps, you should give consideration to a refinishing as opposed to a painting.   Pool refinishing can solve problems and provides a fresh appearance, choice of colors and many other advantages.  Over the life of the finish, the cost differences are probably small.  But, the maintenance costs could vary considerably, as masonry finishes interact with the pool water chemistry, much more so than pool paints/coatings, fiberglass or vinyl surfaces.   I hope that I have helped.
 

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 9/8/2004

 


 

How Much Paint Is Needed?
 

We just moved into a resale house with a painted pool.  I would like to do the work myself.  How do I know how much paint I will need?  Thanks.


Tony D., 2/3/2005
 

The paint should tell you how much coverage is expected from a gallon.  If you figure out the interior area of the pool, you'll be able to calculate the quantity needed.  For an easy way to figure this out, click here.   A quality paint/coating is important and if done properly will be long lasting.  Ultra Poly One Coat is a high tech coating that will stand the test on time, with a 15-year warranty.  A gallon of this particular product will cover 100-130 square feet.  It doesn't require primers or base coats and is easier to apply that most offer finishes.  It looks beautiful:  read the letter at the top of the page. For more information on this product go to:  www.polysolutionsinc.com  Good luck with the work.


Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 2/3/2005
 

Proper water chemistry will help to better control and avoid algae problems and maintain more optimum swimming conditions.  More information about Pool/Spa Water Testing Products can be found in the Test Equipment Store.

 

 

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